Magritte

Hi

I am posting here instead of the Magritte group as the readership is high.

Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number
of forms and sub forms.

This is to be used in Pharo9 + Seaside +Willow.

I am putting this question as i do not see much mention of Magritte in
forums / discord of late, whereas by its description the package seems to
fit a space for applications with many domain objects and associated forms.

regards  
Sanjay



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Sanjay Minni wrote
> Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number
> of forms and sub forms.

I use Magritte extensively (for almost all my projects), and have found it
irreplaceable, but nearly all in desktop apps. Maybe cross-post to the
Seaside list if you don't get an answer here...



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thanks

Magritte is a chapter by itself in Seaside Book and also its mentioned in
Stephane's booklet that Seside is shipped with Magritte so I assume that
they are well integrated.

The next vital thing for me is if Willow+Bootstrap4 works well with
Magritte+Seaside (in Pharo9), then I have most of what I need


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sure,

I will be putting queries on this thread which will also indicate where I
am,
you can always reach out anyways

the main objective now will be to get a Magritte based single form UI
working under Willow (BS4) for the appearance and then a master+detail form

I would be using MongoDB

Note: but i would be very slow



Russ Whaley wrote
> Sanjay,
> I, too, am interested in Magritte. I'd appreciate it if you'd post
> whatever
> you learn back to this list?
>
> Thanks,
> Russ
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 3:10 AM Sanjay Minni <

> sm@

> whaley.russ@





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Hi Sean

Please!

I have only seen examples with seaside. Could you add any desktop app example?

Thanks.

Sebastián

Hi Sean

May be we should update the Magrrite booklet. I never got the time to go over it. 

S. 

On 23 Nov 2020, at 15:56, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sanjay Minni wrote

Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number
of forms and sub forms.

I use Magritte extensively (for almost all my projects), and have found it
irreplaceable, but nearly all in desktop apps. Maybe cross-post to the
Seaside list if you don't get an answer here...



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Stéphane Ducasse wrote
> Maybe we should update the Magrrite booklet. I never got the time to go
> over it.

I can help. Yes, it is probably time. There have been lots of small
additions and changes. I also plan on doing Spec2 bindings as soon as P9 is
released. That might be a good time also because I'm swamped the next few
weeks...



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Hi,

Examples in the magritte booklet "meta data at work ... " show pragmas
<magritte Description> (pg 2.2).  Are the pragmas required since I don't
seem to have found any mention elsewhere (i.e. Lukas Renggli's papers, SAGs
seaside tutorial, Ramon Leons blogs ...)


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Sanjay Minni wrote
> <magritte Description>
> ...  Are the pragmas required

Yes, annotating methods is how they are registered as part of the Magritte
description. There have been several non-backward-compatible Magritte
versions (currently on v. 3), so that may have been added later; note that
these methods should be on the instance side, unlike in the original
Magritte. Here is an example:

MyClass>>#descriptionHasMetacelloConfiguration
        <magritteDescription>
        ^ MABooleanDescription new
                priority: 250;
                accessor: #hasMetacelloConfiguration;
                beReadOnly;
                beRequired;
                yourself

p.s. happy to discuss here, but we also added a discussion place to the GH
repo: https://github.com/magritte-metamodel/magritte/discussions
p.p.s. there is a Magritte ML, but it doesn't get much traffic



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Thanks - I will make further postings in Magritte ML (just subscribed)

ML and Discord are friendlier and visible even to the non subscribers than
GH discussion boards ,,, my view  


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Am posing messages on GH Repo Disc Board while awaiting subscription approval
to Magritte ML
Sanjay


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