Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?
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Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?
 
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Hi folks: I previous Dev images I remember the Mercury bar in OB to search for classes and methods. Now, in the last Dev Beta Image I built, there was not mercury :(
I have completely no idea where that bar is or how to install it. Moreover, now we are using Lukas' OB. Does someone know how to install it so that I can put it again ? should that bring problems ? Cheers Mariano ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adrian Kuhn <[hidden email]> Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there? To: [hidden email] Dear list, I am trying to compile a list of all source/object search abilities in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices). So far I got - Senders of - Implementers of - References to - Mercury search bar of OB - Code search/rewrite of RB - MethodFinder - PointerFinder certainly there is more out there. Any references and hints are welcome. cheers, AA _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?
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> Hi folks: I previous Dev images I remember the Mercury bar in OB to search
> for classes and methods. Now, in the last Dev Beta Image I built, there was > not mercury :( You enable it in the preferences. I never got used to it and prefer to use the screen estate otherwise, therefore I disabled it by default. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was in the previous images. It was my mistake. Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) Now...what's "screen state" ?? Thanks! Mariano Lukas _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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> Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to
> images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was > in the previous images. It was my mistake. > > Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) > > Now...what's "screen state" ?? estate, an area or amount of land or property, in particular Some people never use the mercury panel, some never use the annotation panel, some never use the button panel. For them, the panels they never use, is a waste of space and time. The question is if anybody is really using and understanding it (other than just typing a class name)? If I remember correctly it is planned to remove the code from OB. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 18 janv. 2010, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote:
Yes I use it all the time. I find it more usable than Algernon or even Working Set when I'm looking for class refs/method users. In O2, there is a help text by default which sums up the syntax: - AClass (starting with upper case) when looking for a class - aMethod (starting with lower case) when looking for a method - #AClass, references to AClass - #aMethod, senders of aMethod - 'hello world', look for substring 'hello world' in method strings Of course it is also completion-enabled :) It would be cool if it had a shorcut for Siblings, like in WorkingSet - !AClass - !aMethod It's also true that it eats space for each browser. I think it's should be easy to put a unique search field in a task bar. As part of my Morphic experiments, I played a bit with this idea. As an example, you can perform the following in a workspace (unfortunately it opens two browsers, but should be difficult to tweak). (OBMercuryQuery from: '''hello''' panel: (OBPanel new browser: SystemBrowser default browserClass open model)) find -- Simon _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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may be having it as floating window that populate a (the current) browser on the fly could be fun?
On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > > On 18 janv. 2010, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to >>> images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was >>> in the previous images. It was my mistake. >>> >>> Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) >>> >>> Now...what's "screen state" ?? >> >> estate, an area or amount of land or property, in particular >> >> Some people never use the mercury panel, some never use the annotation >> panel, some never use the button panel. For them, the panels they >> never use, is a waste of space and time. >> >> The question is if anybody is really using and understanding it (other >> than just typing a class name)? If I remember correctly it is planned >> to remove the code from OB. >> > > Yes I use it all the time. I find it more usable than Algernon or even Working Set when I'm looking for class refs/method users. > In O2, there is a help text by default which sums up the syntax: > - AClass (starting with upper case) when looking for a class > - aMethod (starting with lower case) when looking for a method > - #AClass, references to AClass > - #aMethod, senders of aMethod > - 'hello world', look for substring 'hello world' in method strings > > Of course it is also completion-enabled :) > > It would be cool if it had a shorcut for Siblings, like in WorkingSet > - !AClass > - !aMethod > > > > It's also true that it eats space for each browser. I think it's should be easy to put a unique search field in a task bar. As part of my Morphic experiments, I played a bit with this idea. As an example, you can perform the following in a workspace (unfortunately it opens two browsers, but should be difficult to tweak). > > (OBMercuryQuery from: '''hello''' panel: (OBPanel new browser: SystemBrowser default browserClass open model)) find > > > -- > Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Instead of do that, I would improve Algernon or WorkingSet to fit your requirements.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: may be having it as floating window that populate a (the current) browser on the fly could be fun? _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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In reply to this post by Simon Denier-3
> Yes I use it all the time. I find it more usable than Algernon or even Working Set when I'm looking for class refs/method users.
> In O2, there is a help text by default which sums up the syntax: > - AClass (starting with upper case) when looking for a class > - aMethod (starting with lower case) when looking for a method > - #AClass, references to AClass > - #aMethod, senders of aMethod > - 'hello world', look for substring 'hello world' in method strings Very good to know. Thank you for the explanation. It is indeed very helpful. If it stays in the standard browser (I am using the images how they are delivered...) such a help text would be great. Helps with "learning/discovering by using" which at least for me is the way to go in a modern IDE. Reading a manual is a nice concept, but I usually don't apply it :-/ Best Stefan > > Of course it is also completion-enabled :) > > It would be cool if it had a shorcut for Siblings, like in WorkingSet > - !AClass > - !aMethod > > > > It's also true that it eats space for each browser. I think it's should be easy to put a unique search field in a task bar. As part of my Morphic experiments, I played a bit with this idea. As an example, you can perform the following in a workspace (unfortunately it opens two browsers, but should be difficult to tweak). > > (OBMercuryQuery from: '''hello''' panel: (OBPanel new browser: SystemBrowser default browserClass open model)) find > > > -- > Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 3956 Fax: +32 2 629 3525 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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