Monitoring how many users are logged in to a Seaside application...?
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Monitoring how many users are logged in to a Seaside application...?
 
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I was just thinking that it would be nice to know how many (and if any)
people are connected to a particular Seaside web-app from an admin point of view.. However, I'm not sure this is something that Seaside can know since larger sites frequently will have multiple Squeak/VW images running and doing load balancing and each instance of Squeak/VW will have N users logged in.. Do others do this somehow or is this just something that people aren't interested in? Obviously scanning the Apache logs would reveal usage info but it would need to be postprocessed into a usable format.. Anyway, it just popped in my head and figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.. _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: Monitoring how many users are logged in to a Seaside application...?
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>>>>> "Rick" == Rick Flower <[hidden email]> writes:
Rick> I was just thinking that it would be nice to know how many (and if any) Rick> people Rick> are connected to a particular Seaside web-app from an admin point of view.. People aren't "connected". They make correlated hits. There is no interaction between hits. And you cannot possibly know if I'm still looking at the same page, about to make another hit, or not. So, what do *you* mean by "logged in"? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
RE: Monitoring how many users are logged in to a Seasideapplication...?
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He probably just wants to count all sessions that hadn't expired either
by virtue of enough time passing or someone hitting the logout button. -Boris -- +1.604.689.0322 DeepCove Labs Ltd. 4th floor 595 Howe Street Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 [hidden email] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This email is intended only for the persons named in the message header. Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is private and confidential. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender and delete the entire message including any attachments. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randal L. Schwartz Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:18 PM To: Rick Flower Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Seaside] Monitoring how many users are logged in to a Seasideapplication...? >>>>> "Rick" == Rick Flower <[hidden email]> writes: Rick> I was just thinking that it would be nice to know how many (and if Rick> any) people are connected to a particular Seaside web-app from an Rick> admin point of view.. People aren't "connected". They make correlated hits. There is no interaction between hits. And you cannot possibly know if I'm still looking at the same page, about to make another hit, or not. So, what do *you* mean by "logged in"? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Thanks for the clarification guys.. I guess I chose a poor set of
words.. Ideally, I guess it would be nice to know the current overall session count (across all Squeak/VW instances) and that sort of thing.. Ultimately, this sounds like something perhaps only Apache might have some visibility into since it works as the virtual traffic cop of sorts.. I guess you could write a script to ping each Squeak/VW instance and ask it how many sessions its chewing on..? Hmm.. Obviously something I'll have to think about further.. (8-> -- Rick On Thu, January 29, 2009 1:19 pm, Boris Popov wrote: > He probably just wants to count all sessions that hadn't expired either > by virtue of enough time passing or someone hitting the logout button. > > -Boris > > -- > +1.604.689.0322 > DeepCove Labs Ltd. > 4th floor 595 Howe Street > Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 > http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 > > [hidden email] > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This email is intended only for the persons named in the message header. > Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is private and > confidential. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender > and delete the entire message including any attachments. > > Thank you. > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randal > L. Schwartz > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:18 PM > To: Rick Flower > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Monitoring how many users are logged in to a > Seasideapplication...? > >>>>>> "Rick" == Rick Flower <[hidden email]> writes: > > Rick> I was just thinking that it would be nice to know how many (and if > > Rick> any) people are connected to a particular Seaside web-app from an > Rick> admin point of view.. > > People aren't "connected". They make correlated hits. > > There is no interaction between hits. And you cannot possibly know if > I'm still looking at the same page, about to make another hit, or not. > > So, what do *you* mean by "logged in"? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 > 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: Monitoring how many users are logged in to a Seasideapplication...?
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Yeah, I've never seen a solution posted for that, though obviously you
could easily roll your own: just implement a simple request handler that answers every request with the current number of sessions and then, as you say, ping that periodically with a script. I've occasionally thought of trying to get SNMP working with Squeak/Seaside which would definitely be able to provide this sort of information but it's never come high enough up my priority list (and would be overkill for the simple piece of information you're looking for). Julian On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Rick Flower <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks for the clarification guys.. I guess I chose a poor set of > words.. Ideally, I guess it would be nice to know the current > overall session count (across all Squeak/VW instances) and that sort > of thing.. Ultimately, this sounds like something perhaps only > Apache might have some visibility into since it works as the virtual > traffic cop of sorts.. I guess you could write a script to ping each > Squeak/VW instance and ask it how many sessions its chewing on..? > > Hmm.. Obviously something I'll have to think about further.. (8-> > > -- Rick > > On Thu, January 29, 2009 1:19 pm, Boris Popov wrote: >> He probably just wants to count all sessions that hadn't expired either >> by virtue of enough time passing or someone hitting the logout button. >> >> -Boris >> >> -- >> +1.604.689.0322 >> DeepCove Labs Ltd. >> 4th floor 595 Howe Street >> Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5 >> http://tinyurl.com/r7uw4 >> >> [hidden email] >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >> >> This email is intended only for the persons named in the message header. >> Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is private and >> confidential. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender >> and delete the entire message including any attachments. >> >> Thank you. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [hidden email] >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Randal >> L. Schwartz >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:18 PM >> To: Rick Flower >> Cc: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Monitoring how many users are logged in to a >> Seasideapplication...? >> >>>>>>> "Rick" == Rick Flower <[hidden email]> writes: >> >> Rick> I was just thinking that it would be nice to know how many (and if >> >> Rick> any) people are connected to a particular Seaside web-app from an >> Rick> admin point of view.. >> >> People aren't "connected". They make correlated hits. >> >> There is no interaction between hits. And you cannot possibly know if >> I'm still looking at the same page, about to make another hit, or not. >> >> So, what do *you* mean by "logged in"? >> >> -- >> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 >> 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> >> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. >> See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside >> discussion _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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In reply to this post by Rick Flower
2009/1/29 Rick Flower <[hidden email]>:
> Thanks for the clarification guys.. I guess I chose a poor set of > words.. Ideally, I guess it would be nice to know the current > overall session count (across all Squeak/VW instances) and that sort > of thing.. Ultimately, this sounds like something perhaps only > Apache might have some visibility into since it works as the virtual > traffic cop of sorts.. Apache doesn't know about Seaside sessions. Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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On Fri, January 30, 2009 3:46 am, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> Apache doesn't know about Seaside sessions. True- - but it does know who its sending connections to and perhaps that might be good enough.. _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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2009/1/30 Rick Flower <[hidden email]>:
> On Fri, January 30, 2009 3:46 am, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> Apache doesn't know about Seaside sessions. > > True- - but it does know who its sending connections to and perhaps that > might be good enough.. Nope, it doesn't store it (in memory) and doesn't have enough contextual information to make sense of it. The closest is: http://www.apache.org/server-status Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Besides apache will never know when the Seaside session expires. So, when will it know "the user has disconnected?" what disconected will mean then?
Cheers, Sebastian > -----Mensaje original----- > De: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] En nombre > de Philippe Marschall > Enviado el: Saturday, January 31, 2009 17:21 > Para: [hidden email]; Seaside - general discussion > Asunto: Re: [Seaside] Monitoring how many users are logged in > to a Seasideapplication...? > > 2009/1/30 Rick Flower <[hidden email]>: > > On Fri, January 30, 2009 3:46 am, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > >> Apache doesn't know about Seaside sessions. > > > > True- - but it does know who its sending connections to and > perhaps that > > might be good enough.. > > Nope, it doesn't store it (in memory) and doesn't have enough > contextual information to make sense of it. The closest is: > http://www.apache.org/server-status > > Cheers > Philippe > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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