[Moose-dev] issue deleting a moose model
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[Moose-dev] issue deleting a moose model
 
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Hi,
yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because the model has not been removed. I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, Moose-Core 208. Cheers, Fabrizio _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
[Moose-dev] Re: issue deleting a moose model
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You can maybe check who is pointing to the model. There is a menu in
the inspector. Alexandre On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > Hi, > yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the > function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear > from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing > "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I > tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk > garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because > the model has not been removed. > > I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i > detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, > Moose-Core 208. > > Cheers, > > Fabrizio > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
[Moose-dev] Re: issue deleting a moose model
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Hi,
I think it has to do with Glamour. It looks like the Glamour browsers linger around in the image. I looked briefly for the possible problem, but I could not find the answer yet though :(. Cheers, Doru On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > You can maybe check who is pointing to the model. There is a menu in > the inspector. > > Alexandre > > > On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > >> Hi, >> yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the >> function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear >> from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing >> "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I >> tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk >> garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because >> the model has not been removed. >> >> I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i >> detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, >> Moose-Core 208. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Fabrizio >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
[Moose-dev] Re: issue deleting a moose model
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Hi,
i tried to check the pointers to the model opening that menu. My machine start to work at 100% and after 3 hours i didn't have the list of pointers visualized yet. So i decide to kill the image. The system was surely into an infinite loop (or there were billions of links so i think that is useless know which they were). I will anyway try to let my machine work during the night just in the case that i'm wrong :) Meanwhile have you other suggestions? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Fabrizio On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Fabrizio Perin Institut fuer Mathematik und Informatik University Bern, IAM-SCG Neubrueckstrasse 10 CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland Tel: +41 31 631 33 13 FAX: +41 31 631 33 55 _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Fabrizio,
You could probably reproduce this problem in a new smaller image as well. No need to spend the time doing it on a very large one. Cheers, Doru On 26 Jan 2010, at 18:51, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > Hi, > i tried to check the pointers to the model opening that menu. My > machine start to work at 100% and after 3 hours i didn't have the > list of pointers visualized yet. So i decide to kill the image. The > system was surely into an infinite loop (or there were billions of > links so i think that is useless know which they were). I will > anyway try to let my machine work during the night just in the case > that i'm wrong :) Meanwhile have you other suggestions? Thanks in > advance. > > Cheers, > > Fabrizio > > > On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> You can maybe check who is pointing to the model. There is a menu >> in the inspector. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the >>> function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear >>> from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing >>> "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I >>> tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk >>> garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size >>> because the model has not been removed. >>> >>> I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i >>> detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, >>> Moose-Core 208. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Fabrizio >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > Fabrizio Perin > Institut fuer Mathematik und Informatik > University Bern, IAM-SCG > Neubrueckstrasse 10 > CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland > Tel: +41 31 631 33 13 > FAX: +41 31 631 33 55 > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi,
It appeared that this was a critical issue. It took a bit of time to track it down, and Lukas patiently assisted me in the process :). The problem was a Glamour one and it was exhibited specifically in the case of the MoosePanel like this: Because MoosePanel registers for the announcements from MooseModel root, even if you close it, this instance of MoosePanel will still be referenced by the MooseModel root announcer. So, it does not get garbage collected. And if you opened already a model with this MoosePanel, this model will still be referenced by the Panel, and so it won't get collected. The current solution is that when the Glamour Morphic window is closed, the announcements are unregistered from all enclosed presentation. So, it means that in the case of MoosePanel, the garbage collector will do its job only after you close the MoosePanel. It's not nice, but it is the current solution. See http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=314. I will keep it open for a while. Please let me know if you find more leakage. Cheers, Doru On 27 Jan 2010, at 00:23, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Fabrizio, > > You could probably reproduce this problem in a new smaller image as > well. No need to spend the time doing it on a very large one. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 26 Jan 2010, at 18:51, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > >> Hi, >> i tried to check the pointers to the model opening that menu. My >> machine start to work at 100% and after 3 hours i didn't have the >> list of pointers visualized yet. So i decide to kill the image. The >> system was surely into an infinite loop (or there were billions of >> links so i think that is useless know which they were). I will >> anyway try to let my machine work during the night just in the case >> that i'm wrong :) Meanwhile have you other suggestions? Thanks in >> advance. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Fabrizio >> >> >> On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> You can maybe check who is pointing to the model. There is a menu >>> in the inspector. >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using >>>> the function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model >>>> disappear from the list but saving the image it has the same >>>> size. Executing "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model >>>> was still there. I tried to close all windows and then i execute >>>> "Smalltalk garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same >>>> size because the model has not been removed. >>>> >>>> I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i >>>> detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, >>>> Moose-Core 208. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Fabrizio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> Fabrizio Perin >> Institut fuer Mathematik und Informatik >> University Bern, IAM-SCG >> Neubrueckstrasse 10 >> CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland >> Tel: +41 31 631 33 13 >> FAX: +41 31 631 33 55 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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