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Vincent Blondeau

Moose on the web

Hello,

I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.

I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.

Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing this ?

Thanks

Vincent BLONDEAU

Student in Software Engineering and Statistics

Polytech Lille

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stephane ducasse

Re: Moose on the web

<base href="x-msg://419/">read the seaside chapter on it

http://book.seaside.st

BTW the work of vincent will be MIT and integrable to Moose.

On May 24, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing this ?

Thanks

Vincent BLONDEAU
Student in Software Engineering and Statistics
Polytech Lille

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abergel

Re: Moose on the web

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Excellent! Welcome Vincent

Alexandre

On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing this ?

Thanks

Vincent BLONDEAU
Student in Software Engineering and Statistics
Polytech Lille

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Tudor Girba-2

Re: Moose on the web

Hi Vincent,

Welcome, indeed! :)

If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it. And in order to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?

If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical aspects is on the seaside mailing list.

Cheers,
Doru

On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing this ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics
>> Polytech Lille
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> _______________________________________________
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Vincent Blondeau

Re: Moose on the web

It's exactly that !
I'll mail the seaside list.

Thanks,
Vincent

-----Message d'origine-----
De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
De la part de Tudor Girba
Envoyé : lundi 27 mai 2013 06:37
À : Moose-related development
Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Moose on the web

Hi Vincent,

Welcome, indeed! :)

If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose
server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it. And in order
to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for
this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?

If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical
aspects is on the seaside mailing list.

Cheers,
Doru

On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Im doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this
internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing
this ?

>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics Polytech Lille
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> _______________________________________________
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Tudor Girba-2

Re: Moose on the web

Excellent.

Once you have a first prototype running, please let us know. We will create a project in the Moose team and a continuous integration job.

Cheers,

Doru

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's exactly that !
I'll mail the seaside list.

Thanks,
Vincent

-----Message d'origine-----
De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
De la part de Tudor Girba
Envoyé : lundi 27 mai 2013 06:37
À : Moose-related development
Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Moose on the web

Hi Vincent,

Welcome, indeed! :)

If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose
server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it. And in order
to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for
this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?

If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical
aspects is on the seaside mailing list.

Cheers,
Doru

On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this
internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing
this ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics Polytech Lille
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> _______________________________________________
> Moose-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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SergeStinckwich

Re: Moose on the web

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Is there any relationships with Glamour Seaside ?

Regards,

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Vincent BLONDEAU
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's exactly that !
> I'll mail the seaside list.
>
> Thanks,
> Vincent
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> De la part de Tudor Girba
> Envoyé : lundi 27 mai 2013 06:37
> À : Moose-related development
> Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Moose on the web
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> Welcome, indeed! :)
>
> If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose
> server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it. And in order
> to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for
> this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?
>
>
> If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical
> aspects is on the seaside mailing list.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this
> internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing
> this ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics Polytech Lille
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
> --
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>
> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Usman Bhatti

Re: Moose on the web

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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Vincent,

Welcome, indeed! :)

If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it.

Yes. Glamour-seaside already does the rendering of Moose entities, its probably general-purpose, in the sense that its not related to Moose, but we have an infrastructure for rendering Moose entities on the web. The idea of this project is to be able to query server for models, take a model and query its elements and their links/associations. There are some questions around the "server" notion that Vincent will work on, e.g.

- Do we need to associate an "ID" to search for an entity in the model or the names are unique in a model (I dont think so).

- Should the client be provided with the data it asked for, or can we introduce a certain notion of meta-data so that the client knows the entities and messages that can be sent to the entities it received.

- ensure that different data formats (principally, JSON and then probably XML) can be communicated to the client.

- not to clutter the network, be able to ask a certain number of Moose entities.

I am not aware of all the efforts made in the past to support such type of approach in Moose. Did someone already work on this?

For the project, we'll do some small iterations and share the results for you to test:-).

Usman

And in order to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?

If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical aspects is on the seaside mailing list.

Cheers,
Doru

On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing this ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics
>> Polytech Lille
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
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Usman Bhatti

Re: Moose on the web

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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excellent.

Once you have a first prototype running, please let us know. We will create a project in the Moose team and a continuous integration job.

Cheers,
Doru

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's exactly that !
I'll mail the seaside list.

Thanks,
Vincent

-----Message d'origine-----
De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
De la part de Tudor Girba
Envoyé : lundi 27 mai 2013 06:37
À : Moose-related development
Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Moose on the web

Hi Vincent,

Welcome, indeed! :)

If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose
server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it. And in order
to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for
this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?

If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical
aspects is on the seaside mailing list.

Cheers,
Doru

On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this
internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing
this ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics Polytech Lille
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> _______________________________________________
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stephane ducasse

Re: Moose on the web

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> Hi Vincent,
>
> Welcome, indeed! :)
>
> If I understand correctly, you would like to have more of a "remote Moose server", and not necessarily the rendering associated with it.

Yes there are two objectives
- first offering a remote API to get results of queries from light clients
- how can we build light clients

So I would like the data sent around to be described so that for example we have the list of messages that we can apply to the data on the client to
continue the flow of interaction.
Doru what we should think is do we want to filter messages that we want to expose to client.

Stef

> And in order to communicate with the server you would like to use a REST API. And for this to happen, you would like to use the Seaside REST API. Is that correct?
>
> If yes, I believe the best place to get more answers about the technical aspects is on the seaside mailing list.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Excellent! Welcome Vincent
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 24 May 2013, at 05:19, Vincent BLONDEAU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I’m doing an internship in the INRIA team RMod for 3 month. During this internship, I would like to export Moose on the web.
>>> I know there is a REST library on Seaside and we would to use it.
>>> Have you got some pointers or links on resources that I can use to doing this ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Vincent BLONDEAU
>>> Student in Software Engineering and Statistics
>>> Polytech Lille
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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