Mulitiple Monitor support

> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> I could have sworn I saw something a while back for multiple monitor
>> support. I thought it was a parcel but for some reason I have scanned
> my
>> VW distribution and I can't find it. I also tried the public
> repository
>> but my search strings did not yield anything.
>
> I understand support was integrated some time between 7.1 and 7.4.1. My
> old DualHead package is still in the public repository, and seems to do
> no harm for me in 7.4.1. I haven't much tried how well things work
> without it.
>
> 7.3 added goodies\parc\MultiMonitor.pcl, but this required an extra DLL.
> The goodie disappeared in 7.4, so I guess the necessary changes got
> integrated then. The release notes don't mention this, though.
>
> Steve
>

> Citrix can screw up multiple monitor support if the citrix box has 2
> monitors on it and the client has one. When you get into citrix it sends  
> the
> display of one monitor over to you and that can give VW a walk back  
> since it
> can not get a screen graphics context for a monitor that is supposed to  
> be
> there. At least that is what I observed with on customer. The work  
> around is
> to have one monitor on the citrix and client boxes for nor now so that an
> image saved lets say on a multi monitor box will then simply have windows
> that will be drawn on the edge. You might have to get the window on the
> windows toll bar at the bottom and left mouse click and move the windows
> into the visible region of the monitor you are working on. I don't think  
> we
> have worked with all the variations of citrix and multi monitor
> configurations available.
>
> The biggest issue I saw was with an image saved on a multi monitor with
> windows on the second monitor, that when it was started on a citrix box  
> with
> a one monitor client it would give a walk back on start up regarding the
> other open windows. You could close them and reopen the window and you  
> were
> set. This was on a customers citrix set up I saw this.
>
> I have not set up the same scenario yet locally to take a look at the  
> issue.
> The fix I think would be if you were saved on a multi monitor box and you
> come up with a window on a monitor that is not there then draw yourself  
> on
> the one that is there.
>
> I think they solved their issue with some citrix configuration  
> parameters. I
> don't know what those are since I have only used the clients and not the
> servers. I have not paid for getting a citrix server locally because they
> are not cheap and I have loads of other work I am doing. So the answer is
> yes but there are workarounds that you can apply by configuring the  
> citrix
> server.
>
> HTH
>
> Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:27 AM
> To: Steven Kelly; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Mulitiple Monitor support
>
> does anybody know if Citrix "messes" with multiple monitor support?
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:53:49 -0500, Steven Kelly <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> I could have sworn I saw something a while back for multiple monitor
>>> support. I thought it was a parcel but for some reason I have scanned
>> my
>>> VW distribution and I can't find it. I also tried the public
>> repository
>>> but my search strings did not yield anything.
>>
>> I understand support was integrated some time between 7.1 and 7.4.1. My
>> old DualHead package is still in the public repository, and seems to do
>> no harm for me in 7.4.1. I haven't much tried how well things work
>> without it.
>>
>> 7.3 added goodies\parc\MultiMonitor.pcl, but this required an extra DLL.
>> The goodie disappeared in 7.4, so I guess the necessary changes got
>> integrated then. The release notes don't mention this, though.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
>
>

> You need to see which monitor is next to whom when the image is saved.  
> When
> it comes back up the monitor that vw thinks is next to monitor 1 may not  
> be
> the same when it wakes up. Those can be adjusted of which one maps to  
> whom
> on the settings page for the monitors in windows. I am not sure how to  
> see
> this issue since I don't have the equipment to try and really flush this
> out. I need to get myself a four monitor box essentially. Or rather a  
> couple
> of boxes with different number of monitors on it so we can save on one an
> bring it up on another and see what happens.
>
>
> After this release I could try to work with you on it if I could get  
> access
> to those platforms.  I would like to see this reproduced in front of me.
>
>
> Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:13 AM
> To: Sean Glazier; Steven Kelly; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Mulitiple Monitor support
>
> the situation we have is one where are clients  have monitor
> configurations 3 monitors per PC and then a second of 4 monitors per PC.
> Not sure yet what the Citrix box config is yet. We don't have problems
> with walk backs and we don't save on multiple monitor setups although the
> app does know how it was placed on the real estate which is remembered
> across sessions.
>
> Anyhow, the issue is that if of VW windows is moved from the first  
> monitor
> to say that 3rd monitor that if one tries to engage a drop down for
> example , the drop-down shows up in the real estate of the first monitor  
> ,
> not as if it were on the first monitor i.e. forgotten that it had moved
> but actually closer to right edge of the monitor.
>
> Mind you, this happened at the customers during their tests. BTW,
> interesting to note that this is a multiple monitor situation which
> involves multiple video cards i.e.  two dual head video cards. We ordered
> a dual head card so that we can now get a grip on the multiple monitor
> thing.
>
> So more later :)
>
> -Charles
> http://monteirofusion.blogspot.com
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:01:53 -0500, Sean Glazier <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Citrix can screw up multiple monitor support if the citrix box has 2
>> monitors on it and the client has one. When you get into citrix it sends
>> the
>> display of one monitor over to you and that can give VW a walk back
>> since it
>> can not get a screen graphics context for a monitor that is supposed to
>> be
>> there. At least that is what I observed with on customer. The work
>> around is
>> to have one monitor on the citrix and client boxes for nor now so that  
>> an
>> image saved lets say on a multi monitor box will then simply have  
>> windows
>> that will be drawn on the edge. You might have to get the window on the
>> windows toll bar at the bottom and left mouse click and move the windows
>> into the visible region of the monitor you are working on. I don't think
>> we
>> have worked with all the variations of citrix and multi monitor
>> configurations available.
>>
>> The biggest issue I saw was with an image saved on a multi monitor with
>> windows on the second monitor, that when it was started on a citrix box
>> with
>> a one monitor client it would give a walk back on start up regarding the
>> other open windows. You could close them and reopen the window and you
>> were
>> set. This was on a customers citrix set up I saw this.
>>
>> I have not set up the same scenario yet locally to take a look at the
>> issue.
>> The fix I think would be if you were saved on a multi monitor box and  
>> you
>> come up with a window on a monitor that is not there then draw yourself
>> on
>> the one that is there.
>>
>> I think they solved their issue with some citrix configuration
>> parameters. I
>> don't know what those are since I have only used the clients and not the
>> servers. I have not paid for getting a citrix server locally because  
>> they
>> are not cheap and I have loads of other work I am doing. So the answer  
>> is
>> yes but there are workarounds that you can apply by configuring the
>> citrix
>> server.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:27 AM
>> To: Steven Kelly; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Mulitiple Monitor support
>>
>> does anybody know if Citrix "messes" with multiple monitor support?
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:53:49 -0500, Steven Kelly <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> I could have sworn I saw something a while back for multiple monitor
>>>> support. I thought it was a parcel but for some reason I have scanned
>>> my
>>>> VW distribution and I can't find it. I also tried the public
>>> repository
>>>> but my search strings did not yield anything.
>>>
>>> I understand support was integrated some time between 7.1 and 7.4.1. My
>>> old DualHead package is still in the public repository, and seems to do
>>> no harm for me in 7.4.1. I haven't much tried how well things work
>>> without it.
>>>
>>> 7.3 added goodies\parc\MultiMonitor.pcl, but this required an extra  
>>> DLL.
>>> The goodie disappeared in 7.4, so I guess the necessary changes got
>>> integrated then. The release notes don't mention this, though.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

> the situation we have is one where are clients  have monitor
> configurations 3 monitors per PC and then a second of 4 monitors per
> PC.  Not sure yet what the Citrix box config is yet. We don't have
> problems  with walk backs and we don't save on multiple monitor setups
> although the  app does know how it was placed on the real estate which
> is remembered  across sessions.
>
> Anyhow, the issue is that if of VW windows is moved from the first
> monitor  to say that 3rd monitor that if one tries to engage a drop down
> for  example , the drop-down shows up in the real estate of the first
> monitor ,  not as if it were on the first monitor i.e. forgotten that it
> had moved  but actually closer to right edge of the monitor.
>
> Mind you, this happened at the customers during their tests. BTW,
> interesting to note that this is a multiple monitor situation which
> involves multiple video cards i.e.  two dual head video cards. We
> ordered  a dual head card so that we can now get a grip on the multiple
> monitor  thing.
>
> So more later :)
>
> -Charles
> http://monteirofusion.blogspot.com
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:01:53 -0500, Sean Glazier
> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> Citrix can screw up multiple monitor support if the citrix box has 2
>> monitors on it and the client has one. When you get into citrix it
>> sends  the
>> display of one monitor over to you and that can give VW a walk back
>> since it
>> can not get a screen graphics context for a monitor that is supposed
>> to  be
>> there. At least that is what I observed with on customer. The work
>> around is
>> to have one monitor on the citrix and client boxes for nor now so that an
>> image saved lets say on a multi monitor box will then simply have windows
>> that will be drawn on the edge. You might have to get the window on the
>> windows toll bar at the bottom and left mouse click and move the windows
>> into the visible region of the monitor you are working on. I don't
>> think  we
>> have worked with all the variations of citrix and multi monitor
>> configurations available.
>>
>> The biggest issue I saw was with an image saved on a multi monitor with
>> windows on the second monitor, that when it was started on a citrix
>> box  with
>> a one monitor client it would give a walk back on start up regarding the
>> other open windows. You could close them and reopen the window and
>> you  were
>> set. This was on a customers citrix set up I saw this.
>>
>> I have not set up the same scenario yet locally to take a look at the
>> issue.
>> The fix I think would be if you were saved on a multi monitor box and you
>> come up with a window on a monitor that is not there then draw
>> yourself  on
>> the one that is there.
>>
>> I think they solved their issue with some citrix configuration
>> parameters. I
>> don't know what those are since I have only used the clients and not the
>> servers. I have not paid for getting a citrix server locally because they
>> are not cheap and I have loads of other work I am doing. So the answer is
>> yes but there are workarounds that you can apply by configuring the
>> citrix
>> server.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:27 AM
>> To: Steven Kelly; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: Mulitiple Monitor support
>>
>> does anybody know if Citrix "messes" with multiple monitor support?
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:53:49 -0500, Steven Kelly <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> I could have sworn I saw something a while back for multiple monitor
>>>> support. I thought it was a parcel but for some reason I have scanned
>>> my
>>>> VW distribution and I can't find it. I also tried the public
>>> repository
>>>> but my search strings did not yield anything.
>>>
>>> I understand support was integrated some time between 7.1 and 7.4.1. My
>>> old DualHead package is still in the public repository, and seems to do
>>> no harm for me in 7.4.1. I haven't much tried how well things work
>>> without it.
>>>
>>> 7.3 added goodies\parc\MultiMonitor.pcl, but this required an extra DLL.
>>> The goodie disappeared in 7.4, so I guess the necessary changes got
>>> integrated then. The release notes don't mention this, though.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

> Hi Charles,
>
> can you get the value of Screen default getScreenDimensions
> for this situation? It the position of the window on the 3rd monitor
> inside one of the rectangles?
>
> Ralf
>
> Charles A. Monteiro wrote:
>> the situation we have is one where are clients  have monitor
>> configurations 3 monitors per PC and then a second of 4 monitors per
>> PC.  Not sure yet what the Citrix box config is yet. We don't have
>> problems  with walk backs and we don't save on multiple monitor setups
>> although the  app does know how it was placed on the real estate which
>> is remembered  across sessions.
>>
>> Anyhow, the issue is that if of VW windows is moved from the first
>> monitor  to say that 3rd monitor that if one tries to engage a drop down
>> for  example , the drop-down shows up in the real estate of the first
>> monitor ,  not as if it were on the first monitor i.e. forgotten that it
>> had moved  but actually closer to right edge of the monitor.
>>
>> Mind you, this happened at the customers during their tests. BTW,
>> interesting to note that this is a multiple monitor situation which
>> involves multiple video cards i.e.  two dual head video cards. We
>> ordered  a dual head card so that we can now get a grip on the multiple
>> monitor  thing.
>>
>> So more later :)
>>
>> -Charles
>> http://monteirofusion.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:01:53 -0500, Sean Glazier
>> <[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>> Citrix can screw up multiple monitor support if the citrix box has 2
>>> monitors on it and the client has one. When you get into citrix it
>>> sends  the
>>> display of one monitor over to you and that can give VW a walk back
>>> since it
>>> can not get a screen graphics context for a monitor that is supposed
>>> to  be
>>> there. At least that is what I observed with on customer. The work
>>> around is
>>> to have one monitor on the citrix and client boxes for nor now so that  
>>> an
>>> image saved lets say on a multi monitor box will then simply have  
>>> windows
>>> that will be drawn on the edge. You might have to get the window on the
>>> windows toll bar at the bottom and left mouse click and move the  
>>> windows
>>> into the visible region of the monitor you are working on. I don't
>>> think  we
>>> have worked with all the variations of citrix and multi monitor
>>> configurations available.
>>>
>>> The biggest issue I saw was with an image saved on a multi monitor with
>>> windows on the second monitor, that when it was started on a citrix
>>> box  with
>>> a one monitor client it would give a walk back on start up regarding  
>>> the
>>> other open windows. You could close them and reopen the window and
>>> you  were
>>> set. This was on a customers citrix set up I saw this.
>>>
>>> I have not set up the same scenario yet locally to take a look at the
>>> issue.
>>> The fix I think would be if you were saved on a multi monitor box and  
>>> you
>>> come up with a window on a monitor that is not there then draw
>>> yourself  on
>>> the one that is there.
>>>
>>> I think they solved their issue with some citrix configuration
>>> parameters. I
>>> don't know what those are since I have only used the clients and not  
>>> the
>>> servers. I have not paid for getting a citrix server locally because  
>>> they
>>> are not cheap and I have loads of other work I am doing. So the answer  
>>> is
>>> yes but there are workarounds that you can apply by configuring the
>>> citrix
>>> server.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:27 AM
>>> To: Steven Kelly; [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: Mulitiple Monitor support
>>>
>>> does anybody know if Citrix "messes" with multiple monitor support?
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:53:49 -0500, Steven Kelly <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Charles A. Monteiro [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>>> I could have sworn I saw something a while back for multiple monitor
>>>>> support. I thought it was a parcel but for some reason I have scanned
>>>> my
>>>>> VW distribution and I can't find it. I also tried the public
>>>> repository
>>>>> but my search strings did not yield anything.
>>>>
>>>> I understand support was integrated some time between 7.1 and 7.4.1.  
>>>> My
>>>> old DualHead package is still in the public repository, and seems to  
>>>> do
>>>> no harm for me in 7.4.1. I haven't much tried how well things work
>>>> without it.
>>>>
>>>> 7.3 added goodies\parc\MultiMonitor.pcl, but this required an extra  
>>>> DLL.
>>>> The goodie disappeared in 7.4, so I guess the necessary changes got
>>>> integrated then. The release notes don't mention this, though.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>