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Peter Uhnak

Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

Hi,

currently when you are in the method code pane in Nautilus, no Nautilus shortcuts (at least on Linux) works.

My understanding is that Rubric will eat all the shortcuts since it has focus.

So maybe a solution to this would be to add <Esc> shortcut for the code pane to remove the focus?

Or is there already a solution in place?

Peter

Franck Warlouzet

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

What shortcut for example ?

Franck

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:56:07 +0200
From: [hidden email]
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Subject: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

Hi,

currently when you are in the method code pane in Nautilus, no Nautilus shortcuts (at least on Linux) works.

My understanding is that Rubric will eat all the shortcuts since it has focus.

So maybe a solution to this would be to add <Esc> shortcut for the code pane to remove the focus?

Or is there already a solution in place?

Peter

Nicolai Hess

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak

2015-07-24 10:56 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

currently when you are in the method code pane in Nautilus, no Nautilus shortcuts (at least on Linux) works.
My understanding is that Rubric will eat all the shortcuts since it has focus.

This should not happen. If it does not handle the shortcut, it should be handled by its owner

So maybe a solution to this would be to add <Esc> shortcut for the code pane to remove the focus?
Or is there already a solution in place?

Peter

Peter Uhnak

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

In reply to this post by Franck Warlouzet

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Franck Warlouzet <[hidden email]> wrote:

What shortcut for example ?

Many Nautilus shortcuts where there is conflict.

to pick some..

* open a new nautilus window (cmd + b + f/i) [cmd + b selects the row, cmd + f opens search dialog]

* jump to selected class/method/protocol (cmd + g + c/p/..)

Peter Uhnak

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

This should not happen. If it does not handle the shortcut, it should be handled by its owner

Hmm, interesting. Apparently this must've been changed or something, because in Pharo 4 when I want to automatically categorize (ctrl+shift+h+c) it shows comparison against clipboard instead. In Pharo 5 that particular seems to work.

In either case, if there is a shortcut clash then I have no way to use the Nautilus one. So I would like to have an option, to cancel focus on code pane with a keyboard.

Peter

Nicolai Hess

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

2015-07-24 11:16 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:

This should not happen. If it does not handle the shortcut, it should be handled by its owner

Hmm, interesting. Apparently this must've been changed or something, because in Pharo 4 when I want to automatically categorize (ctrl+shift+h+c) it shows comparison against clipboard instead. In Pharo 5 that particular seems to work.

That is because this shortcut is defined for the SmalltalkEditor class.

In either case, if there is a shortcut clash then I have no way to use the Nautilus one. So I would like to have an option, to cancel focus on code pane with a keyboard.

You can move the focus

Cmd+G,Cmd+M -> focus methodlist
Cmd+G,Cmd+C -> focus classlist

At least this worked with the old code text pane

Peter

Thierry Goubier

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

2015-07-24 11:27 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]>:

2015-07-24 11:16 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:
This should not happen. If it does not handle the shortcut, it should be handled by its owner

Hmm, interesting. Apparently this must've been changed or something, because in Pharo 4 when I want to automatically categorize (ctrl+shift+h+c) it shows comparison against clipboard instead. In Pharo 5 that particular seems to work.

That is because this shortcut is defined for the SmalltalkEditor class.

In either case, if there is a shortcut clash then I have no way to use the Nautilus one. So I would like to have an option, to cancel focus on code pane with a keyboard.

You can move the focus
Cmd+G,Cmd+M -> focus methodlist
Cmd+G,Cmd+C -> focus classlist

At least this worked with the old code text pane

The normal shortcut for switching focus in Morphic should work:

Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Tried to be as other non-pharo applications. It's embedded in a general Morph keymap, so it should work (even if sometimes the "order" of morphs in the window is a bit surprising).

Thierry

Peter

Nicolai Hess

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

2015-07-24 11:32 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]>:

2015-07-24 11:27 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]>:

2015-07-24 11:16 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:
This should not happen. If it does not handle the shortcut, it should be handled by its owner

Hmm, interesting. Apparently this must've been changed or something, because in Pharo 4 when I want to automatically categorize (ctrl+shift+h+c) it shows comparison against clipboard instead. In Pharo 5 that particular seems to work.

That is because this shortcut is defined for the SmalltalkEditor class.

In either case, if there is a shortcut clash then I have no way to use the Nautilus one. So I would like to have an option, to cancel focus on code pane with a keyboard.

You can move the focus
Cmd+G,Cmd+M -> focus methodlist
Cmd+G,Cmd+C -> focus classlist

At least this worked with the old code text pane

The normal shortcut for switching focus in Morphic should work:

Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Did this ever worked in a text pane/input field?

Tried to be as other non-pharo applications. It's embedded in a general Morph keymap, so it should work (even if sometimes the "order" of morphs in the window is a bit surprising).

Thierry

Peter

Peter Uhnak

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

In reply to this post by Thierry Goubier

In either case, if there is a shortcut clash then I have no way to use the Nautilus one. So I would like to have an option, to cancel focus on code pane with a keyboard.

You can move the focus
Cmd+G,Cmd+M -> focus methodlist
Cmd+G,Cmd+C -> focus classlist

At least this worked with the old code text pane

That's my point, I can't.

The normal shortcut for switching focus in Morphic should work:

Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Ctrl+Tab seems to work somewhat but is weird.

If I press it once the focus is received by the line/column counter in the bottom bar (this is pre-QualityAssistant Pharo 5). From there I can execute some nautilus shortcuts (like opening new nautilus window)

But if I want for example get to classlist, I have to press Ctrl+Tab six times to get to package list and only from there cmd+G,cmd+C works.

And Ctrl+Shift+Tab doesn't work at all.

Unrelated:

I found ctrl+alt+tab shortcut that cycles thru all open windows with live preview... :)

(but if the focus is received by nautilus window the shortcut stops working again)

Hmm... this seems more problematic than originally anticipated, I will have to take a deeper look since apparently you can't reproduce it.

Peter

Peter Uhnak

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

In reply to this post by Nicolai Hess

Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Did this ever worked in a text pane/input field?

Ctrl+Tab does work for me in Nautilus. (But not Playground nor Workspace nor Transcript).

Nicolai Hess

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

2015-07-24 11:45 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:

Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Did this ever worked in a text pane/input field?

Ctrl+Tab does work for me in Nautilus. (But not Playground nor Workspace nor Transcript).

Ctrl+Tab does not work on windows.

Franck Warlouzet

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

It only works on Mac I think, because all the regular shortcuts are mapped with cmd so ctrl and alt are "free".

Peter, to open a new Nautilus window you can use cmd o + b like in World. I do not know if it is alt or ctrl in Linux, but it should work.

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:55:12 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus shortcuts from code pane
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2015-07-24 11:45 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:

Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Did this ever worked in a text pane/input field?

Ctrl+Tab does work for me in Nautilus. (But not Playground nor Workspace nor Transcript).

Ctrl+Tab does not work on windows.

Peter Uhnak

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

It only works on Mac I think, because all the regular shortcuts are mapped with cmd so ctrl and alt are "free".

No.

<cmd> is abstract key in Pharo and has nothing to do with Mac. Each platform fills there what's appropriate (cmd for Mac, alt or ctrl for Win/Linux).

Peter, to open a new Nautilus window you can use cmd o + b like in World. I do not know if it is alt or ctrl in Linux, but it should work.

I know about this shortcut (and I do use it), but that's not the point of this discussion. (Besides, it's not equal shortcut.)

The point is that using shortcuts from Nautilus is broken in various manners across all platforms.

Peter

Nicolai Hess

Re: Nautilus shortcuts from code pane

In reply to this post by Nicolai Hess

I added a pull request for the pharo windows vm, to recognize ctrl+0/ctrl+1...

short cuts:

https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pull/79

(this is for issue

15705

shortcut ctrl+number does not work on windows)

And ctrl+tab, but for ctrl+tab to work on windows, there is another change that has

to be done on the image side.

nicolai

2015-07-24 11:55 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]>:

2015-07-24 11:45 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:
Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+Shift+Tab

Did this ever worked in a text pane/input field?

Ctrl+Tab does work for me in Nautilus. (But not Playground nor Workspace nor Transcript).

Ctrl+Tab does not work on windows.