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tblanchard
What should I grab for a brand new seaside project?  Squeak image  
version?  Seaside version?  I confess I haven't been paying attention  
to new developments as I've been doing other things lately.

-Todd Blanchard
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Re: Need to start a new project - what do I grab?

Philippe Marschall
2007/10/11, Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>:
> What should I grab for a brand new seaside project?  Squeak image
> version?  Seaside version?  I confess I haven't been paying attention
> to new developments as I've been doing other things lately.

What are your constaints? What do you expect to be present? What do
you expect to not be present? Who much work are you willing to put
into it?

Cheers
Philippe

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Re: Need to start a new project - what do I grab?

tblanchard
I need to be able to make images (custom graphs) and serve them, need  
fast persistent storage of largeish (but simple) datasets, ability to  
do web services as a client (data aggregator).  I don't need  
internationalization.  Don't need magritte.  Just basic seaside I think.



On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2007/10/11, Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>:
>> What should I grab for a brand new seaside project?  Squeak image
>> version?  Seaside version?  I confess I haven't been paying attention
>> to new developments as I've been doing other things lately.
>
> What are your constaints? What do you expect to be present? What do
> you expect to not be present? Who much work are you willing to put
> into it?
>
> Cheers
> Philippe
>
>> -Todd Blanchard
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Re: Need to start a new project - what do I grab?

Philippe Marschall
2007/10/11, Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>:
> I need to be able to make images (custom graphs) and serve them,

How do you make them, Morphs?

> need
> fast persistent storage of largeish (but simple) datasets,

Already anything in mind?

> ability to
> do web services as a client (data aggregator).  I don't need
> internationalization.  Don't need magritte.  Just basic seaside I think.

I was more talking about the image. Do you want stuff like shout and
ecomplection? Would you mind loading it yourself? Would you mind if
some package you don't actually need like for example RoelTyper comes
preinstalled and would you rather install it yourself if you need it?

Cheers
Philippe

> On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>
> > 2007/10/11, Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>:
> >> What should I grab for a brand new seaside project?  Squeak image
> >> version?  Seaside version?  I confess I haven't been paying attention
> >> to new developments as I've been doing other things lately.
> >
> > What are your constaints? What do you expect to be present? What do
> > you expect to not be present? Who much work are you willing to put
> > into it?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Philippe
> >
> >> -Todd Blanchard
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Re: Need to start a new project - what do I grab?

tblanchard
I've grabbed the dev image.  It's OK to start, I'm gonna want a more  
minimal image at some point.  The universes loader is cool, although  
the pier package is broken (won't load - missing something it wants).

As to other questions.
Images - BalloonCanvas seems to fit for now.
Persistence - I tried to get magma working in a client-server mode.  
The client cannot connect.  Socket timeouts.  Magma list was no  
help.  I give up on it.  I'm going to use image segments for now I  
think.  I will probably switch to gemstone when the beta gets further  
along.

So I can develop.  But I will need to really slim it down for  
deployment as I'm going to need a bunch of these things.

On Oct 14, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2007/10/11, Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>:
>> I need to be able to make images (custom graphs) and serve them,
>
> How do you make them, Morphs?
>
>> need
>> fast persistent storage of largeish (but simple) datasets,
>
> Already anything in mind?
>
>> ability to
>> do web services as a client (data aggregator).  I don't need
>> internationalization.  Don't need magritte.  Just basic seaside I  
>> think.
>
> I was more talking about the image. Do you want stuff like shout and
> ecomplection? Would you mind loading it yourself? Would you mind if
> some package you don't actually need like for example RoelTyper comes
> preinstalled and would you rather install it yourself if you need it?
>
> Cheers
> Philippe
>
>> On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>
>>> 2007/10/11, Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>:
>>>> What should I grab for a brand new seaside project?  Squeak image
>>>> version?  Seaside version?  I confess I haven't been paying  
>>>> attention
>>>> to new developments as I've been doing other things lately.
>>>
>>> What are your constaints? What do you expect to be present? What do
>>> you expect to not be present? Who much work are you willing to put
>>> into it?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>> -Todd Blanchard
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