New Dolphin 5.1 Release Candidate

Folks,

Let's try again...

A new Dolphin 5.1 Release Candidate is now available. You MUST uninstall any
previous 5.1RC before trying to install the new one. Once again, we hope
this will become the final 5.1 release a few days from now unless any
showstoppers are found.

You can download the installers using these (temporary) links:

http://www.object.arts.dial.pipex.com/Lib/Downloads/5.1RC/DPROSetup51.exe
http://www.object.arts.dial.pipex.com/Lib/Downloads/5.1RC/DSESetup51.exe
http://www.object.arts.dial.pipex.com/Lib/Downloads/5.1RC/DVESetup51.exe

The release notes can be found at:

http://www.object.arts.dial.pipex.com/Lib/Downloads/5.1RC/ReleaseNotes51.htm

Best Regards,

Andy Bower
Dolphin Support
http://www.object-arts.com
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I'm stuck with the attached installation error.  Any ideas?

jlo


"Andy Bower" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:3e9c1eb6$[hidden email]...
> Folks,
>
> Let's try again...
>
> A new Dolphin 5.1 Release Candidate is now available. You MUST uninstall
any http://www.object.arts.dial.pipex.com/Lib/Downloads/5.1RC/ReleaseNotes51.htm



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Jeffrey,

> I'm stuck with the attached installation error.  Any ideas?

Do you have a My Documents folder? If so, has it been moved to a drive other
than C:, or is there anything special about it? Did the old 5.0 installer
work okay on this machine? Are you running as a Power User or Administrator
(ordinary users can't install Dolphin)?

Best Regards,

Andy Bower
Dolphin Support
http://www.object-arts.com
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Jeffrey,

> I'm stuck with the attached installation error.  Any ideas?

Which OS are you using?

It seems strange that the installer feels it needs to create that folder
though, I though it was normally automatically created for all new
user accounts.

Perhaps you need to make "odelljl" an administrator before you can
create that particular folder?

--
Ian

This disk drive was installed for a week or so via and adapter on my
workstation.  At this time my laptop was at "the doctor".

I had to change ownership of My Documents while it was hooked to the
workstation.  When I put it back in the laptop, I set ownership back to
odelljl.  Everything had worked fine up to this point.  odelljl is an
Administrator.

Both the laptop and the workstation are running Windows XP Pro.

I'm sure it has something to do with this - I need to see if I can tease out
what it is - all hints appreciated.

jlo

"Andy Bower" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:3e9c79d2$[hidden email]...
> Jeffrey,
>
> > I'm stuck with the attached installation error.  Any ideas?
>
> Do you have a My Documents folder? If so, has it been moved to a drive
other
> than C:, or is there anything special about it? Did the old 5.0 installer
> work okay on this machine? Are you running as a Power User or
Administrator

I reset Ownership to myself on My Documents on down, and am still receiving
this error.  I'm at a loss at the moment - any further suggestions
appreciated.  I'll try and track down any other problems as time allows -

jlo



"Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:3e9c8af9$[hidden email]... out installer

Jeffrey,

This is grasping at straws, but, having just gone through a server upgrade,
I know how frustrating these seemingly bizarre permissions problems can be.
You don't happen to have a domain set up, do you?  That can sometimes leave
you with permissions muddled between local and domain versions of the same
user ID.

Also, if you had to recreate your username for any reason, I've seen
situations where cached versions of obsolete ID's make you think you've
assigned rights properly, but they're assigned to an ID that no longer
really exists or to a directory that your user ID is no longer actually
using.  If you've redone things, you might want to make sure you're actually
still working in the "odelljl" directory (as your original installer
screenshot obviously indicates), and not "odelljl.000" or some such thing.
Try starting a command prompt (Start/run cmd) and see what directory you
actually find yourself in.

Just a couple of shots in the dark, but...

Don

"Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:3e9d6826$[hidden email]...
> I reset Ownership to myself on My Documents on down, and am still
receiving
> this error.  I'm at a loss at the moment - any further suggestions
> appreciated.  I'll try and track down any other problems as time allows -

Unfortunately I do not see your original posting with the error message, I
only see replies to it.  However I would like to suggest that you make sure
that your "My Documents" directory has System write privileges.  The MSI
install seems to use System security privilege to create directories rather
than the users.  I had trouble before I changed this.  At a minimum MSI
should report a better error message saying that the directory should have
System write privileges, rather than implying that the user does not have
appropriate privileges.  Or maybe it is just another of MS's many bugs.  I
want to like MS, but they make it so hard.

Chris

"Christopher J. Demers" <[hidden email]> wrote in
message news:b7khdr$1t0ru$[hidden email]...
> "Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
> news:3e9d6826$[hidden email]...
> > I reset Ownership to myself on My Documents on down, and am still
> receiving
> > this error.  I'm at a loss at the moment - any further suggestions
> > appreciated.  I'll try and track down any other problems as time
allows -
>
> Unfortunately I do not see your original posting with the error message, I
> only see replies to it.

Same here, if it makes any difference.

Bingo!  I gave System Full Control for good measure, and that got me by my
first error to a second problem.

Turns out, under the registry key:

HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-515967899-688789844-1060284298-1003\Software\Microsoft\W
indows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

There are several settings for the locations of special folders - Cache,
Cookies, etc.  In my registry, the folders My Music and My Pictures were
pointing to the G: drive - a network drive when I'm at work but not
connected when I'm at home.  The .msi install failed looking for the G:
drive!

When I fixed those two values, the install proceeded properly.

I don't think either of these things are Dolphin issues; I suspect they are
.msi issues.

At any rate - thanks everyone for the suggestions.

jlo

"Christopher J. Demers" <[hidden email]> wrote in
message news:b7khdr$1t0ru$[hidden email]...
> "Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
> news:3e9d6826$[hidden email]...
> > I reset Ownership to myself on My Documents on down, and am still
> receiving
> > this error.  I'm at a loss at the moment - any further suggestions
> > appreciated.  I'll try and track down any other problems as time
allows -
>
> Unfortunately I do not see your original posting with the error message, I
> only see replies to it.  However I would like to suggest that you make
sure
> that your "My Documents" directory has System write privileges.  The MSI
> install seems to use System security privilege to create directories
rather
> than the users.  I had trouble before I changed this.  At a minimum MSI
> should report a better error message saying that the directory should have
> System write privileges, rather than implying that the user does not have
> appropriate privileges.  Or maybe it is just another of MS's many bugs.  I
> want to like MS, but they make it so hard.
>
> Chris
>
>

I see it on Totally Objects server - Hmm...

jlo

"Mark Wilden" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:[hidden email]... I
> > only see replies to it.
>
> Same here, if it makes any difference.
>
>

"Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:3e9def3b$[hidden email]...
> Bingo!  I gave System Full Control for good measure, and that got me by my
> first error to a second problem.

Mine allows everything but Full Control, and that worked for me.

> Turns out, under the registry key:
>
>
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-515967899-688789844-1060284298-1003\Software\Microsoft\W
> indows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
>
> There are several settings for the locations of special folders - Cache,
> Cookies, etc.  In my registry, the folders My Music and My Pictures were
> pointing to the G: drive - a network drive when I'm at work but not
> connected when I'm at home.  The .msi install failed looking for the G:
> drive!

I wonder why the dolphin install would even care about My Music or My
Pictures.  I could see it caring about My Documents though.  Was the My
Documents setting correct?

> When I fixed those two values, the install proceeded properly.
>
> I don't think either of these things are Dolphin issues; I suspect they
are
> .msi issues.

I personally have had more trouble installing Dolphin since OA started using
msi, and I have seen postings from others with various msi problems.  I sure
hope someone is enjoying easier installs with the Dolphin msi, because I 'm
sure not. ;)

Chris

My Documents was set correctly in the registry.  It baffles me that it
seemed to need all these settings to resolve properly - including My Music
and My Pictures!

jlo

"Christopher J. Demers" <[hidden email]> wrote in
message news:b7krtb$1vunp$[hidden email]...
> "Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
> news:3e9def3b$[hidden email]...
> > Bingo!  I gave System Full Control for good measure, and that got me by
my
> > first error to a second problem.
>
> Mine allows everything but Full Control, and that worked for me.
>
> > Turns out, under the registry key:
> >
> >
>
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-515967899-688789844-1060284298-1003\Software\Microsoft\W using
> msi, and I have seen postings from others with various msi problems.  I
sure
> hope someone is enjoying easier installs with the Dolphin msi, because I
'm
> sure not. ;)
>
> Chris
>
>

Suddenly I can now create new rules again in Outlook also.  Weird science ;>

jlo

"Jeffrey Odell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
news:3e9dffa8$[hidden email]... by HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-515967899-688789844-1060284298-1003\Software\Microsoft\W
> > > indows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
> > >
> > > There are several settings for the locations of special folders -
Cache,
> > > Cookies, etc.  In my registry, the folders My Music and My Pictures
were
> > > pointing to the G: drive - a network drive when I'm at work but not
> > > connected when I'm at home.  The .msi install failed looking for the
G:
> > > drive!
> >
> > I wonder why the dolphin install would even care about My Music or My
> > Pictures.  I could see it caring about My Documents though.  Was the My
> > Documents setting correct?
> >
> > > When I fixed those two values, the install proceeded properly.
> > >
> > > I don't think either of these things are Dolphin issues; I suspect
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