New Member with a question.

> Hi,
>
> Just thought I would introduce myself. I'm new to this group, and very
> interested in Squeak and Seaside. I'm a 30 year veteran of computer wars.
> Having first started programming in 1977 in APL in high school. Now, I'm a
> professional developer, have worked all over the US and in Europe and
> develop web applications in Java. I started out using WebObjects and am now
> using a variety of horrible J2EE frameworks.
>
> After 30 years of TPS rreports and corporate manuvering, I'd pretty much
> lost my interest in development. It had become just a job. The horrible
> movement back in time from WebObjects to J2EE didn't help the situation.
>  Squeak and Seaside have piqued my interest in developing again. In a way
> that I haven't felt in a long time. So I'm very interested in best
> practices.  I'm hoping that if I can develop a good enough grounding in this
> stuff that I can suggest we try Seaside as a development platform where I
> work.  I have my fingers crossed.
>
> So now on to the question:
>
> Imagine you're writing a game and you have a player object.  There are
> places in the game where you want to display player information on the page
> you are generating.  I would say classically that the player is the Model.
> and that Seaside gives us the View. So now my question is, about the
> Controller.

> 2008/11/21 Tony Giaccone <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just thought I would introduce myself. I'm new to this group, and very
>> interested in Squeak and Seaside. I'm a 30 year veteran of computer wars.
>> Having first started programming in 1977 in APL in high school. Now, I'm a
>> professional developer, have worked all over the US and in Europe and
>> develop web applications in Java. I started out using WebObjects and am now
>> using a variety of horrible J2EE frameworks.
>>
>> After 30 years of TPS rreports and corporate manuvering, I'd pretty much
>> lost my interest in development. It had become just a job. The horrible
>> movement back in time from WebObjects to J2EE didn't help the situation.
>>  Squeak and Seaside have piqued my interest in developing again. In a way
>> that I haven't felt in a long time. So I'm very interested in best
>> practices.  I'm hoping that if I can develop a good enough grounding in this
>> stuff that I can suggest we try Seaside as a development platform where I
>> work.  I have my fingers crossed.
>>
>> So now on to the question:
>>
>> Imagine you're writing a game and you have a player object.  There are
>> places in the game where you want to display player information on the page
>> you are generating.  I would say classically that the player is the Model.
>> and that Seaside gives us the View. So now my question is, about the
>> Controller.
>
> There is no real controller. View related actions to the component.
> Model related actions to the model.
>
>> Is the controller a separate class?  Should there be a controller class that
>> handles placing the data from the model onto the page? Or should the page
>> just know about the player and make direct calls into the player object.
>
> Yes. A component is kinda like view and controller together.
>
>> If I have a component,  PlayerInfoView. Is that in fact the controller?
>>
>>  Should the player object know
>> anything about seaside?
>
> No.
>
> Cheers
> Philippe
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