Could be but I like to have message too. Relying too much on tools is
good but when suddently do not have tools because you are in a minimal kernel then having 3 extra messages should like a good win win situation. Stef On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> > wrote: >>> >>> About >>> Halt only does not convey anything to me. >>> Halt onlyMe means clearly what is it >> >> >> To me it seems strange/awkward that code in one method will change global >> debugging state, >> and it would feel better via direct UI action to add a metalink (IIUC how >> that would work.) >> Plus also a global GUI tool to manage breakpoints/metalinks would be good. >> >> Yes but when you need you need it. >> Else what is the alternative: >> - remove all the halt during the execution. >> - execute yours >> - put back the halt if something wrong happens. >> >> or >> - create manually a global. >> - rewrite all your halt to depend on this global >> - turn on and off the global to get the desired effects... > > > or hypothetically something like... right-click code and menu select "break > here, disable others" > > cheers -ben > >> >> Tedious, cumbersome and boring. >> We can do better. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:09 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Stephane Ducasse >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What we should consider is that well packaged methods can be in Object. >>>> The problem is when method in Object are used everywhere and that they >>>> have nothing to do there. >>>> >>>> About >>>> Halt only does not convey anything to me. >>>> Halt onlyMe means clearly what is it >>> >>> >>> To me it seems strange/awkward that code in one method will change global >>> debugging state, >>> and it would feel better via direct UI action to add a metalink (IIUC how >>> that would work.) >>> Plus also a global GUI tool to manage breakpoints/metalinks would be >>> good. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> For the >>>> Halt ifTest >>>> Halt ifNotTest >>>> >>>> Why not. But I would prefer to be really clear. >>>> I would prefer >>>> >>>> Halt ifInsideTest >>>> Halt ifOutsideTest >>> >>> >>> These sound good. >>> cheers -ben >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Because we are not about a couple of characters. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Le 04/06/2017 à 11:40, Peter Uhnak a écrit : >>>>> > But then I wouldn't be able to write 1halt. :( >>>>> > >>>>> > Peter >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> You can still add some startup script :) >>>>> >>>>> I have one compiling a "h" method in object calling halt to be able to >>>>> write "1h" :) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cyril Ferlicot >>>>> https://ferlicot.fr >>>>> >>>>> http://www.synectique.eu >>>>> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, >>>>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
A simple way of having a "onlyMe" type is to throw another type of error and wrap the code execution with an #on:do: catching and resuming Halt. Here is an example: ----------------------------------------------- | cls |
cls := Halt subclass: #CustomHalt.
cls class compile: 'onlyCustomHaltDuring: aBlock
aBlock on: Halt - CustomHalt do: [ :ex | ex resume ]
'.
cls class compile: 'example
self onlyCustomHaltDuring: [
0 crLog.
Halt now.
1 crLog.
Halt once.
2 crLog.
CustomHalt now.
3 crLog.
]
'.
cls example
-----------------------------------------------
Henrik Fra: Pharo-dev <[hidden email]> på vegne av Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
Sendt: 5. juni 2017 20:57:43 Til: Pharo Development List Emne: Re: [Pharo-dev] New and richer halt messages Could be but I like to have message too. Relying too much on tools is
good but when suddently do not have tools because you are in a minimal kernel then having 3 extra messages should like a good win win situation. Stef On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> > wrote: >>> >>> About >>> Halt only does not convey anything to me. >>> Halt onlyMe means clearly what is it >> >> >> To me it seems strange/awkward that code in one method will change global >> debugging state, >> and it would feel better via direct UI action to add a metalink (IIUC how >> that would work.) >> Plus also a global GUI tool to manage breakpoints/metalinks would be good. >> >> Yes but when you need you need it. >> Else what is the alternative: >> - remove all the halt during the execution. >> - execute yours >> - put back the halt if something wrong happens. >> >> or >> - create manually a global. >> - rewrite all your halt to depend on this global >> - turn on and off the global to get the desired effects... > > > or hypothetically something like... right-click code and menu select "break > here, disable others" > > cheers -ben > >> >> Tedious, cumbersome and boring. >> We can do better. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:09 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:06 AM, Stephane Ducasse >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What we should consider is that well packaged methods can be in Object. >>>> The problem is when method in Object are used everywhere and that they >>>> have nothing to do there. >>>> >>>> About >>>> Halt only does not convey anything to me. >>>> Halt onlyMe means clearly what is it >>> >>> >>> To me it seems strange/awkward that code in one method will change global >>> debugging state, >>> and it would feel better via direct UI action to add a metalink (IIUC how >>> that would work.) >>> Plus also a global GUI tool to manage breakpoints/metalinks would be >>> good. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> For the >>>> Halt ifTest >>>> Halt ifNotTest >>>> >>>> Why not. But I would prefer to be really clear. >>>> I would prefer >>>> >>>> Halt ifInsideTest >>>> Halt ifOutsideTest >>> >>> >>> These sound good. >>> cheers -ben >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Because we are not about a couple of characters. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Le 04/06/2017 à 11:40, Peter Uhnak a écrit : >>>>> > But then I wouldn't be able to write 1halt. :( >>>>> > >>>>> > Peter >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> You can still add some startup script :) >>>>> >>>>> I have one compiling a "h" method in object calling halt to be able to >>>>> write "1h" :) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cyril Ferlicot >>>>> https://ferlicot.fr >>>>> >>>>> http://www.synectique.eu >>>>> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, >>>>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
Nice idea.
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Henrik Nergaard <[hidden email]> wrote:
This sending #class to a Class confused me for a bit. I wonder if these might be useful, just aliased to #class... cls classSide compile: 'onlyCustomHaltDuring: aBlock cls meta compile: 'onlyCustomHaltDuring: aBlock cheers -ben
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good names. We need right english overview :)
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