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Hi Folks,
I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port of VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. It also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": if you do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace you get gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. We also have an updated TerseGuide and a few new examples (thanks Dan!) and some tweaks to support Hannes' port of Neo-CSV (thans Hannes!). Cheers, Juan Vuletich _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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On Sun, 10 May 2015 15:54:59 -0300
Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote: > I've just updated our github repo. Thanks much!! However, time does not seem to move forward. (String streamContents: [ :strm | DateAndTime now printHMSOn: strm]) always returns the same value. Interestingly, Time now. advances! -KenD _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org
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On Sun, May 10, 2015 6:38 pm, Ken.Dickey wrote:
> On Sun, 10 May 2015 15:54:59 -0300 > Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> I've just updated our github repo. >> > > Thanks much!! > > > However, time does not seem to move forward. > (String streamContents: [ :strm | DateAndTime now printHMSOn: strm]) > always returns the same value. > > Interestingly, > Time now. > advances! > > -KenD Hi Ken, On Windows, with both a recent Cog and an interpreter, it seems to work ok. Have you tried various VMs, especially one that used to work ok for you? What OS / VM are you using? What do you get if you evaluate Time primLocalMicrosecondClock and Time primMillisecondClock ? Do you get increasing values? Thanks, Juan Vuletich _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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On Sun, 10 May 2015 19:21:29 -0300
"Juan Vuletich" <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2015 6:38 pm, Ken.Dickey wrote: > > However, time does not seem to move forward. > > (String streamContents: [ :strm | DateAndTime now printHMSOn: strm]) > > always returns the same value. > > > > Interestingly, > > Time now. > > advances! .. > On Windows, with both a recent Cog and an interpreter, it seems to work > ok. Have you tried various VMs, especially one that used to work ok for > you? image 2280 works image 2318 fails with same VM and platform. > What OS / VM are you using? Samsung ARM Chromebook w Crouton / Ubuntu (trusty) >> uname -a Linux localhost 3.8.11 #1 SMP Mon Apr 27 08:39:10 PDT 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux >> squeak -version 4.0-3284 #1 Mon Mar 23 23:23:08 PDT 2015 gcc 4.6.3 [Production VM] StackInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.1113 uuid: 9b08eea7-d3db-440f-ba64-16abc799fcf8 Mar 23 2015 VM: r3284 http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog Date: 2015-03-23 13:04:06 -0700 Plugins: r3275 http://squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/trunk/platforms/Cross/plugins Linux bruichladdich 3.18.7-v7+ #755 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:20:48 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux plugin path: /usr/local/bin/../lib/squeak/4.0-3284 [default: /usr/local/lib/squeak/4.0-3284/] > What do you get if you evaluate Time primLocalMicrosecondClock and Time > primMillisecondClock ? > Do you get increasing values? Yes. The values look roughly equivalent in 2280 and 2318. Ah! I think I found the root of the problem. The image save timestamp was (10 May 2015 3:39:16.01 pm) The clock on your time zone is ahead of mine, so I was testing BEFORE the image was saved. The Cuis image was saved at 15:39 (your local time) My testing here started at 13:24 (my local time) NOW (19:41 local time) the UpdatingStringMorph on the panel is working in 2318. Looks like we need to use GMT for timestamps to avoid the problem. Not an immediate crisis, however. Whew! -- -KenD _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org
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The following minor irritations appear in update 2318:
Transcript will not stay where it was placed when the image was saved. In a reloaded image, it has been moved. Author initials are no longer retained across image save/reload. On 10 May 2015 at 15:54, Juan Vuletich wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port of > VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. It > also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": if > you > do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace you > get > gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. > > We also have an updated TerseGuide and a few new examples (thanks > Dan!) > and some tweaks to support Hannes' port of Neo-CSV (thans > Hannes!). > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > _______________________________________________ > Cuis mailing list > [hidden email] > http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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On 5/10/2015 10:44 PM, Ken.Dickey wrote:
> ... > Yes. The values look roughly equivalent in 2280 and 2318. > > > Ah! I think I found the root of the problem. > > The image save timestamp was > (10 May 2015 3:39:16.01 pm) > > The clock on your time zone is ahead of mine, so I was testing BEFORE the image was saved. > > The Cuis image was saved at 15:39 (your local time) > My testing here started at 13:24 (my local time) > > NOW (19:41 local time) the UpdatingStringMorph on the panel is working in 2318. > > Looks like we need to use GMT for timestamps to avoid the problem. Not an immediate crisis, however. > > Whew! Great catch Ken! Thank you! This bug could drive me mad for weeks, as there's no way I would reproduce it, without changing time zones! The problem was not resetting the LastTick class variable on image save. It is fixed now. Cheers, Juan Vuletich _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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Thanks, Dan.
They are fixed now. Never refrain from reporting these! Cheers, Juan Vuletich On 5/11/2015 10:05 PM, Dan Norton wrote: > The following minor irritations appear in update 2318: > > Transcript will not stay where it was placed when the image was saved. In a reloaded > image, it has been moved. > > Author initials are no longer retained across image save/reload. > > On 10 May 2015 at 15:54, Juan Vuletich wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port of >> VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. It >> also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": if >> you >> do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace you >> get >> gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. >> >> We also have an updated TerseGuide and a few new examples (thanks >> Dan!) >> and some tweaks to support Hannes' port of Neo-CSV (thans >> Hannes!). >> >> Cheers, >> Juan Vuletich >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cuis mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Cuis mailing list > [hidden email] > http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org > _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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Thanks, Juan. That did it.
self refrain: false. :) On 13 May 2015 at 10:19, Juan Vuletich wrote: > Thanks, Dan. > > They are fixed now. Never refrain from reporting these! > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > On 5/11/2015 10:05 PM, Dan Norton wrote: > > The following minor irritations appear in update 2318: > > > > Transcript will not stay where it was placed when the image > was saved. In a reloaded > > image, it has been moved. > > > > Author initials are no longer retained across image > save/reload. > > > > On 10 May 2015 at 15:54, Juan Vuletich wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port > of > >> VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. > It > >> also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": > if > >> you > >> do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace > you > >> get > >> gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. > >> > >> We also have an updated TerseGuide and a few new examples > (thanks > >> Dan!) > >> and some tweaks to support Hannes' port of Neo-CSV (thans > >> Hannes!). > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Juan Vuletich > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Cuis mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cuis mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org > > > _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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Juan,
On Sun, 2015-05-10 at 15:54 -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port of > VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. It > also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": if you > do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace you get > gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. > I just noticed the VMMaker in the compat packages. I was curious if you have looked at all into getting a simulator running? (i.e. running a Cuis image within a Cuis image. Yes, I understand this would be very, very, painfully slow) I'm not sure what the status of doing this is even in Squeak but thought I'd ask... > We also have an updated TerseGuide and a few new examples (thanks Dan!) > and some tweaks to support Hannes' port of Neo-CSV (thans Hannes!). > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > Thanks, Phil _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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Hi Phil,
On 6/14/2015 8:47 PM, Phil (list) wrote: > Juan, > > On Sun, 2015-05-10 at 15:54 -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port of >> VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. It >> also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": if you >> do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace you get >> gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. >> > I just noticed the VMMaker in the compat packages. I was curious if you > have looked at all into getting a simulator running? (i.e. running a > Cuis image within a Cuis image. Yes, I understand this would be very, > very, painfully slow) I'm not sure what the status of doing this is > even in Squeak but thought I'd ask... Right now, it can generate the full C source for the VM and plugins. I didn't try to use it to run a Cuis image (yet). It should be doable with a reasonable amount of effort. Cheers, Juan Vuletich _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 09:40 -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote:
> Hi Phil, > > On 6/14/2015 8:47 PM, Phil (list) wrote: > > Juan, > > > > On Sun, 2015-05-10 at 15:54 -0300, Juan Vuletich wrote: > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I've just updated our github repo. News include a verbatim port of > >> VMMaker, and tweaks to SqueakCompatibility to make this possible. It > >> also includes a tweak to Transcript to make it "almost editable": if you > >> do "Workspace with contents" in the Transcript, the Workspace you get > >> gets updated when new stuff is added to the Transcript. > >> > > I just noticed the VMMaker in the compat packages. I was curious if you > > have looked at all into getting a simulator running? (i.e. running a > > Cuis image within a Cuis image. Yes, I understand this would be very, > > very, painfully slow) I'm not sure what the status of doing this is > > even in Squeak but thought I'd ask... > > Right now, it can generate the full C source for the VM and plugins. I > didn't try to use it to run a Cuis image (yet). It should be doable with > a reasonable amount of effort. > Added to my list of things to play around with at around position #1241... <sigh> I'll never get through this list... > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > _______________________________________________ Cuis mailing list [hidden email] http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org |
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