Newbie question deploying smalltalk applications

2010/2/4 Nathan Tuttle <[hidden email]>

I created a CRC calculating algorithm and I want to be able to deploy my application for other people to use. I am not sure how to package an image so that it is user friendly.

Hi Nathan!  First of all, thanks for asking how to share something :)  OpenSource code is always welcome. 

So, the first question is, where do you have that code? just in your image?  

What you can do, first is to create a Monticello project in www.squeaksource.com. That's a Monticello server where people can create projects, commit, merge, etc. It is a control version system (sorry if you already know all this).  So, the first step is to create a project there and then, from you image, you commit your code there. Then, people will be able to download it or even commit (depending on the settings you choose).

In a second step, further, you can create a Metacello configuration for you project. This will let you have stable versions of your projects, manage dependencies between packages, etc. 

But I would start  just with the first step.

I REALLY recommend you to read Pharo By Example book. It is free and very good:  http://www.pharobyexample.org/

You can download it in pdf. There, it is a complete chapter for Monticello. Read that :)

Cheers

Mariano

Any help would be nice.

Thanks

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Nathan Tuttle <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am a ne smalltalker. Trying to figure out how to launch apps to
users. I have a nice image.but how do I present to someone to use who
is not a developer?

Nathan:  If you just want it to give it to some persons, suppose students, maybe you can just give your own image, or the customize the OneClick as Stef said. With the OneClick the only thing you have to do is to unzip and double click (it works in Linux, MacOS and Windows). Even simpler than an installer. The last OneClick image is this one:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/23260/Pharo1.0-10440-BETAdev09.09ONECLICK.4.zip
Although we will do a new one for Pharo 1.0 release. 

You can just download it, uncompress it, change your .changes and .image for YOURs, zip it again and that's all.

 If you want, lets say, each person in the world be able to load your code, put it in squeaksource. Imagine this like a SVN/CVS repository.

Another option is create your own customized .exe installer. Torsted can help you here :)
With this, you can create an .exe windows installer that will install the vm, the image, etc.
 
Cheers

Mariano

 

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On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse

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>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
>
>> I created a CRC calculating algorithm and I want to be able to
>> deploy my application for other people to use. I am not sure how to
>> package an image so that it is user friendly.
>
> Hi nathan
>
> what you can do is to copy the OneClick setup and put your image
> inside?
> On which OS are you?
> It would be nice to create a simple how to for such kind of question.
> Let us know your progress and choices/results
>
>> Any help would be nice.
>>
>> Thanks
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2010/2/4 Nathan Tuttle <[hidden email]>

Awesome! Onemore question. How to bootstrap GUI? When they click on image I want then to see my Ui.

I have to admit I have ever done serious development with "desktop applications". I don't understand what is "your UI" so maybe I say non sense. But, if you save the image with the opened windows, and everything as you want and close it, when you open the image again, it will be exactly the same as it was the last time. So, you can prepare your image as you want and you save it. Then you put it in the zip.
 

I am still a little lost there.

No problem. Me too :)
 

Thanks again!!

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On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:43 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Nathan Tuttle <[hidden email][hidden email]> wrote:

I am a ne smalltalker. Trying to figure out how to launch apps to
users. I have a nice image.but how do I present to someone to use who
is not a developer?

Nathan:  If you just want it to give it to some persons, suppose students, maybe you can just give your own image, or the customize the OneClick as Stef said. With the OneClick the only thing you have to do is to unzip and double click (it works in Linux, MacOS and Windows). Even simpler than an installer. The last OneClick image is this one:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/23260/Pharo1.0-10440-BETAdev09.09ONECLICK.4.zip
Although we will do a new one for Pharo 1.0 release. 

You can just download it, uncompress it, change your .changes and .image for YOURs, zip it again and that's all.

 If you want, lets say, each person in the world be able to load your code, put it in squeaksource. Imagine this like a SVN/CVS repository.

Another option is create your own customized .exe installer. Torsted can help you here :)
With this, you can create an .exe windows installer that will install the vm, the image, etc.
 
Cheers

Mariano

 

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On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse

<[hidden email][hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
>
>> I created a CRC calculating algorithm and I want to be able to
>> deploy my application for other people to use. I am not sure how to
>> package an image so that it is user friendly.
>
> Hi nathan
>
> what you can do is to copy the OneClick setup and put your image
> inside?
> On which OS are you?
> It would be nice to create a simple how to for such kind of question.
> Let us know your progress and choices/results
>
>> Any help would be nice.
>>
>> Thanks
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pharo-project mailing list
>> [hidden email][hidden email]
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>
>
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