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Non-evaluating and / or

Jan Blizničenko
Hello

I would like to ask how to do non-evaluating and.
As far as I know, & should be evaluating and and: should be non-evaluating. However, I need to find a way how to use it properly.

In "conventional" languages I would expect to work it like in following example...
  false and: Transcript open
Since false is... false... there is no reason to evaluate Transcript open. But when I run this one in playground, transcript opens.

Any help is appreciated.

Jan
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Re: Non-evaluating and / or

Blondeau Vincent
Hello,

You should but a block after "and:".
If you don't, the instruction will be always executed...
The block represents a kind of conditional action.

So if you want to do it works :
false and: [ Transcript open ]

Hoping that it will help,

Best,
Vincent BLONDEAU

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Hello

I would like to ask how to do non-evaluating and.
As far as I know, & should be evaluating and and: should be non-evaluating.
However, I need to find a way how to use it properly.

In "conventional" languages I would expect to work it like in following example...
  false and: Transcript open
Since false is... false... there is no reason to evaluate Transcript open.
But when I run this one in playground, transcript opens.

Any help is appreciated.

Jan



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Re: Non-evaluating and / or

Peter Uhnak
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Hi,

that's because you need to pass a block, since you want to postpone to execution.
i.e. false and: [Transcript open]. (otherwise the binary operation Transcript open will take precedence over keyword false and:)
You can always look at the implementation of those things — I always learn something from it. :)

»and: alternativeBlock«

Peter

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jan B. <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello

I would like to ask how to do non-evaluating and.
As far as I know, & should be evaluating and and: should be non-evaluating.
However, I need to find a way how to use it properly.

In "conventional" languages I would expect to work it like in following
example...
  false and: Transcript open
Since false is... false... there is no reason to evaluate Transcript open.
But when I run this one in playground, transcript opens.

Any help is appreciated.

Jan



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Re: Non-evaluating and / or

Jan Blizničenko
Of course, how could I have missed it before, thank you both :)

Jan

Blondeau Vincent wrote
Hello,

You should but a block after "and:".
If you don't, the instruction will be always executed...
The block represents a kind of conditional action.

So if you want to do it works :
false and: [ Transcript open ]

Hoping that it will help,

Best,
Vincent BLONDEAU
Peter Uhnák wrote
Hi,

that's because you need to pass a block, since you want to postpone to
execution.
i.e. false and: [Transcript open]. (otherwise the binary operation
Transcript open will take precedence over keyword false and:)
You can always look at the implementation of those things — I always learn
something from it. :)

»and: alternativeBlock«

Peter