Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange:
because it sucks for me those popups. First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but I didn't find how to do it. Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. Cheers Mariano _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
sorry, I attach picture.
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I even think
PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" (self confirm: 'Changes have not been saved. Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. is better ;) On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: sorry, I attach picture. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box
for simple selections? Lukas 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > I even think > > PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel > "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" > (self confirm: > 'Changes have not been saved. > Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) > ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. > > > is better ;) > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> sorry, I attach picture. >> >> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>> >>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>> >>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes >>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>> >>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but >>> I didn't find how to do it. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
This input box comes from
PSUIManager>>#chooseFrom:values:lines:title: Older images do not show the text-input field. Lukas On 18 July 2010 15:18, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box > for simple selections? > > Lukas > > 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >> I even think >> >> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel >> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" >> (self confirm: >> 'Changes have not been saved. >> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) >> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. >> >> >> is better ;) >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> sorry, I attach picture. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>>> >>>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>>> >>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes >>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>>> >>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but >>>> I didn't find how to do it. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps.
Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not style answers. The better approach for this would be UIManager default confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard these changes?' translated withCRs trueChoice: 'Save' translated falseChoice: 'Discard' translated Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano suggested he wanted). To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... UIManager default confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs trueChoice: 'Save' translated falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box for simple selections? Lukas 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > I even think > > PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel > "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" > (self confirm: > 'Changes have not been saved. > Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) > ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. > > > is better ;) > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> sorry, I attach picture. >> >> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>> >>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>> >>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: >>> "'Changes >>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>> >>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest >>> but >>> I didn't find how to do it. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Thanks Gary, this is much better.
For me this is perfect: UIManager default confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs trueChoice: 'Save' translated falseChoice: 'Discard' translated Cheers Mariano On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> wrote: Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
How would a choice like
'Remove it' 'Remove, then browse senders' 'Don''t remove, but show me those senders' 'Forget it -- do nothing -- sorry I asked' be displayed this? This filterable list certainly does not make sense. Lukas 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > Thanks Gary, this is much better. > For me this is perfect: > > UIManager default > confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs > trueChoice: 'Save' translated > falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> >> Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. >> >> Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not >> style answers. >> >> The better approach for this would be >> >> UIManager default >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard >> these changes?' translated withCRs >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated >> >> Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano >> suggested he wanted). >> To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... >> >> UIManager default >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these >> changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >> falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <[hidden email]> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and >> input >> >> >> That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box >> for simple selections? >> >> Lukas >> >> 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> I even think >>> >>> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel >>> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" >>> (self confirm: >>> 'Changes have not been saved. >>> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) >>> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. >>> >>> >>> is better ;) >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> sorry, I attach picture. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> >>>>> aboutToChange: >>>>> >>>>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>>>> >>>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: >>>>> "'Changes >>>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>>>> >>>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest >>>>> but >>>>> I didn't find how to do it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: How would a choice like Hi Lukas. Maybe you misunterstood. I was talking ONLY about the discard changes windows. Because it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. Cheers mariano Lukas _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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I committed
Name: OB-Morphic-lr.131 Author: lr Time: 19 July 2010, 1:04:37 pm UUID: 3a193575-6b76-4f20-9b95-5b82201ce5a3 Ancestors: OB-Morphic-lr.130 - use #confirm:trueChoice:falseChoice: for true/false questions that uses the suggested method for true/false questions. This is much better indeed. Lukas On 19 July 2010 12:57, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > How would a choice like > > 'Remove it' > 'Remove, then browse senders' > 'Don''t remove, but show me those senders' > 'Forget it -- do nothing -- sorry I asked' > > be displayed this? This filterable list certainly does not make sense. > > Lukas > > 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >> Thanks Gary, this is much better. >> For me this is perfect: >> >> UIManager default >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. >>> >>> Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not >>> style answers. >>> >>> The better approach for this would be >>> >>> UIManager default >>> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard >>> these changes?' translated withCRs >>> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >>> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated >>> >>> Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano >>> suggested he wanted). >>> To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... >>> >>> UIManager default >>> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these >>> changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs >>> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >>> falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <[hidden email]> >>> To: <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and >>> input >>> >>> >>> That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box >>> for simple selections? >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>> I even think >>>> >>>> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel >>>> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" >>>> (self confirm: >>>> 'Changes have not been saved. >>>> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) >>>> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. >>>> >>>> >>>> is better ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> sorry, I attach picture. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> >>>>>> aboutToChange: >>>>>> >>>>>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>>>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>>>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: >>>>>> "'Changes >>>>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>>>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>>>>> >>>>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest >>>>>> but >>>>>> I didn't find how to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Thanks Lukas :)
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cool!
I like the atmosphere of this list Stef (looking for ZE bug ...) On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Thanks Lukas :) > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > I committed > > Name: OB-Morphic-lr.131 > Author: lr > Time: 19 July 2010, 1:04:37 pm > UUID: 3a193575-6b76-4f20-9b95-5b82201ce5a3 > Ancestors: OB-Morphic-lr.130 > > - use #confirm:trueChoice:falseChoice: for true/false questions > > that uses the suggested method for true/false questions. This is much > better indeed. > > Lukas > > On 19 July 2010 12:57, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > > How would a choice like > > > > 'Remove it' > > 'Remove, then browse senders' > > 'Don''t remove, but show me those senders' > > 'Forget it -- do nothing -- sorry I asked' > > > > be displayed this? This filterable list certainly does not make sense. > > > > Lukas > > > > 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > >> Thanks Gary, this is much better. > >> For me this is perfect: > >> > >> UIManager default > >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs > >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated > >> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Mariano > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. > >>> > >>> Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not > >>> style answers. > >>> > >>> The better approach for this would be > >>> > >>> UIManager default > >>> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard > >>> these changes?' translated withCRs > >>> trueChoice: 'Save' translated > >>> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > >>> > >>> Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano > >>> suggested he wanted). > >>> To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... > >>> > >>> UIManager default > >>> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these > >>> changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs > >>> trueChoice: 'Save' translated > >>> falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated > >>> > >>> Regards, Gary > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <[hidden email]> > >>> To: <[hidden email]> > >>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and > >>> input > >>> > >>> > >>> That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box > >>> for simple selections? > >>> > >>> Lukas > >>> > >>> 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > >>>> > >>>> I even think > >>>> > >>>> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel > >>>> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" > >>>> (self confirm: > >>>> 'Changes have not been saved. > >>>> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) > >>>> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> is better ;) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> sorry, I attach picture. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> > >>>>>> aboutToChange: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> because it sucks for me those popups. > >>>>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect > >>>>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: > >>>>>> "'Changes > >>>>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". > >>>>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest > >>>>>> but > >>>>>> I didn't find how to do it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mariano > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Lukas Renggli > >>> www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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