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EstebanLM

[OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

Hi,

In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
Do you have any other service we can try?

Thanks,
Esteban

Ron Teitelbaum

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

Terf? www.3dicc.com

Ron Teitelbaum

-----Original Message-----
From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM
To: Pharo Development List
Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

Hi,

In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
Do you have any other service we can try?

Thanks,
Esteban

NorbertHartl

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

In the commercial world WebEx is quite prominent. No idea what they offer for free.

https://www.webex.com/

But then usually only three or four people say anything. Should be a while to reach the limit. :)

Norbert
Am 09.09.2016 um 08:46 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
Do you have any other service we can try?

Thanks,
Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

yeah, we are willing to pay… not immense amounts, but the consortium can pay for having better meetings ;)

Esteban

On 09 Sep 2016, at 08:54, Norbert Hartl <[hidden email]> wrote:

In the commercial world WebEx is quite prominent. No idea what they offer for free.

https://www.webex.com/

But then usually only three or four people say anything. Should be a while to reach the limit. :)

Norbert
Am 09.09.2016 um 08:46 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
Do you have any other service we can try?

Thanks,
Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

In reply to this post by Ron Teitelbaum

I would like to test terf, yes :)

> On 09 Sep 2016, at 08:51, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Terf? www.3dicc.com
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM
> To: Pharo Development List
> Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?
>
> Hi,
>
> In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
> So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
> Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
> Do you have any other service we can try?
>
> Thanks,
> Esteban
>
>

NorbertHartl

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

In reply to this post by Ron Teitelbaum

Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :)

Norbert

> Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
>
> Terf? www.3dicc.com
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM
> To: Pharo Development List
> Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?
>
> Hi,
>
> In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
> So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
> Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
> Do you have any other service we can try?
>
> Thanks,
> Esteban
>
>

philippe.back@highoctane.be

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

Why are we not using 3DICC Terf for these?

Would work wonderfully.

We can have a persistent area, sound and webcam support, slides, ....

Ron, how would it work cost wise for the Pharo Consortium to handle meetings in your servers?

Phil

Le 9 sept. 2016 09:25, "Norbert Hartl" <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :)

Norbert
> Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
>
> Terf? www.3dicc.com
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM
> To: Pharo Development List
> Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?
>
> Hi,
>
> In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
> So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
> Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
> Do you have any other service we can try?
>
> Thanks,
> Esteban
>
>

philippe.back@highoctane.be

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

In reply to this post by NorbertHartl

Not true.

Terf experience would help in focusing the meeting and make it like a real assembly.

We could take a conference theater with podium etc to make it work.

I can help facilitating.

And we can make an intro video to explain to people how they could just sit their avatar to listen, raise the issues and use the chat or share a window.
And go to the lectern to expose something.

We can also screenrecord it all for reference and post it back to youtube as a private video.

Phil

Le 9 sept. 2016 09:25, "Norbert Hartl" <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :)

Norbert

> Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
>
> Terf? www.3dicc.com
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM
> To: Pharo Development List
> Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?
>
> Hi,
>
> In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
> So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
> Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
> Do you have any other service we can try?
>
> Thanks,
> Esteban
>
>

kilon.alios

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?

Discord has video conference as part of the plans

https://mobile.twitter.com/discordapp/status/746540447586263040

The problem I see with having more than 10 people is latency. Just a 1 sec latency is enough to make people talk one on top of each other, in real life things are even worse when you consider how many people are on a slow connection or problematic connection.

Frankly I think chat is better, Blender has a meeting once a week to synchronize effort with over 10 devs participating at the same time. Their meeting are public but instruct the people not to chat while the meeting takes place unless they are blender developers.

This method has worked for them for almost 20 years now.

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 10:50, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Not true.

Terf experience would help in focusing the meeting and make it like a real assembly.

We could take a conference theater with podium etc to make it work.

I can help facilitating.

And we can make an intro video to explain to people how they could just sit their avatar to listen, raise the issues and use the chat or share a window.
And go to the lectern to expose something.

We can also screenrecord it all for reference and post it back to youtube as a private video.

Phil

Le 9 sept. 2016 09:25, "Norbert Hartl" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Well, on the one hand this would be super cool. On the other hand nobody will listen to the meeting because everyone's playing with terf :)

Norbert

> Am 09.09.2016 um 08:51 schrieb Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]>:
>
> Terf? www.3dicc.com
>
> Ron Teitelbaum
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 2:47 AM
> To: Pharo Development List
> Subject: [Pharo-dev] [OFF-TOPIC] looking for your wisdom... video conference service?
>
> Hi,
>
> In the board we decided that we need to have a better support for public meetings (particularly for consortium meetings but also for others).
> So we wanted to explore other services that would allow is more than 10 persons participating (this limit is annoying).
> Now, I know google hangouts was able to provide more than 10 connections (paying), but now I do not find it… maybe I was mistaken?
> Do you have any other service we can try?
>
> Thanks,
> Esteban
>
>