Hi guys
I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded baseline spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; version: '4.4.0'; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. version spec for: #'common' do: [ spec package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] and when I run the test I get accessor error. Any idea what would be problem? The VM? I use 5.7b3 Sted |
I saw the mail of miguel :)
Do you know if OSProcess is working on 1.3? Hi all, I have updated the Metacello configuration for OSProcess. Changes ------- - Uses symbolic versions - Adds support for release 4.4.0 of OSProcess - Applies MetacelloToolBox validations to the old versions of the configuration and corrects them Install -------- In a PharoCore image evaluate in a workspace: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; load. ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: #stable) load. This will install the stable version for the platform you are installing to. This is using symbolic versions and permits to rely on the maintainers to specify the stable version (4.3.11, 4.3.12, 4.4.0) for a given platform version (PharoCore 1.1.1, PharoCore 1.2). Other versions and groups --------------------------- To load older versions: ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: '4.3.11') load. To load other groups: ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: #stable) load: 'Tests'. or ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: '4.3.11') load: 'Tests'. Platforms ---------- This was tested on - PharoCore 1.1.1 190 run, 190 passes, 0 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 unexpected passes - PharoCore 1.2 (build #199 from Hudson) 190 run, 190 passes, 0 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 unexpected passes P.S. I'm cross-posting to pharo and metacello lists but I don't know what is the correct way to announce a new configuration. Advise? Enjoy! -- Miguel Cobá http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx On Mar 7, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded > > > baseline > > spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ > spec > className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > version: '4.4.0'; > repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. > > > version > > spec for: #'common' do: [ > spec > package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; > project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; > package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; > package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; > package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; > package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] > > and when I run the test I get accessor error. > > Any idea what would be problem? > The VM? > > I use 5.7b3 > > Sted > |
I tried in 1.2- Core and it did not work. :(
Stef On Mar 7, 2011, at 11:58 AM, stephane ducasse wrote: > I saw the mail of miguel :) > > Do you know if OSProcess is working on 1.3? > > > Hi all, > > I have updated the Metacello configuration for OSProcess. > > Changes > ------- > > - Uses symbolic versions > - Adds support for release 4.4.0 of OSProcess > - Applies MetacelloToolBox validations to the old versions of the > configuration and corrects them > > Install > -------- > > In a PharoCore image evaluate in a workspace: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > load. > ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: > #stable) load. > > This will install the stable version for the platform you are installing > to. This is using symbolic versions and permits to rely on the > maintainers to specify the stable version (4.3.11, 4.3.12, 4.4.0) for a > given platform version (PharoCore 1.1.1, PharoCore 1.2). > > Other versions and groups > --------------------------- > > To load older versions: > > ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: > '4.3.11') load. > > To load other groups: > > ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: > #stable) load: 'Tests'. > > or > > ((Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfOSProcess) project version: > '4.3.11') load: 'Tests'. > > > Platforms > ---------- > > This was tested on > > - PharoCore 1.1.1 > 190 run, 190 passes, 0 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 > unexpected passes > > - PharoCore 1.2 (build #199 from Hudson) > 190 run, 190 passes, 0 expected failures, 0 failures, 0 errors, 0 > unexpected passes > > P.S. I'm cross-posting to pharo and metacello lists but I don't know > what is the correct way to announce a new configuration. Advise? > > Enjoy! > -- > Miguel Cobá > http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > On Mar 7, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded >> >> >> baseline >> >> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ >> spec >> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >> version: '4.4.0'; >> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. >> >> >> version >> >> spec for: #'common' do: [ >> spec >> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; >> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; >> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; >> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; >> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; >> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] >> >> and when I run the test I get accessor error. >> >> Any idea what would be problem? >> The VM? >> >> I use 5.7b3 >> >> Sted >> > > |
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On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi guys > > I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded > > > baseline > > spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ > spec > className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > version: '4.4.0'; > repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. > > > version > > spec for: #'common' do: [ > spec > package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; > project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; > package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; > package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; > package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; > package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] > > and when I run the test I get accessor error. > > Any idea what would be problem? > The VM? > > I use 5.7b3 Hi Stef, This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it means that you do not have the plugin. Dave |
Thanks david
Apparently my vm does not have any plugin. I tried to copy the plugin from 4 version to 5.7.3 and 5.7.4 and apparently when I open an image with OSProcess 4.4.0 the system crashes. I will try to find a mac vm with plugins. But if somebody knows it, this is an information I'm looking for. Stef On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:38 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded >> >> >> baseline >> >> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ >> spec >> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >> version: '4.4.0'; >> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. >> >> >> version >> >> spec for: #'common' do: [ >> spec >> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; >> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; >> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; >> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; >> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; >> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] >> >> and when I run the test I get accessor error. >> >> Any idea what would be problem? >> The VM? >> >> I use 5.7b3 > > Hi Stef, > > This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. > Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it > means that you do not have the plugin. > > Dave > > |
I tried Squeak4.2.5Beta1U and when I run the tests I get
forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin So it seems that I will not be able to run Coral. Stef > Thanks david > > Apparently my vm does not have any plugin. > I tried to copy the plugin from 4 version to 5.7.3 and 5.7.4 > and apparently when I open an image with OSProcess 4.4.0 > the system crashes. I will try to find a mac vm with plugins. > But if somebody knows it, this is an information I'm looking for. > Stef > > > On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:38 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded >>> >>> >>> baseline >>> >>> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ >>> spec >>> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>> version: '4.4.0'; >>> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. >>> >>> >>> version >>> >>> spec for: #'common' do: [ >>> spec >>> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; >>> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; >>> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; >>> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; >>> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; >>> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] >>> >>> and when I run the test I get accessor error. >>> >>> Any idea what would be problem? >>> The VM? >>> >>> I use 5.7b3 >> >> Hi Stef, >> >> This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. >> Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it >> means that you do not have the plugin. >> >> Dave >> >> > > |
Hi Stef,
I'm attaching a plugin compiled that *should* work with 5.7.4 Please, let me know if it is not the case, and I'll try a fix :) Cheers, Esteban El 07/03/2011, a las 12:17p.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > I tried Squeak4.2.5Beta1U and when I run the tests I get > forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin > So it seems that I will not be able to run Coral. > > Stef > > >> Thanks david >> >> Apparently my vm does not have any plugin. >> I tried to copy the plugin from 4 version to 5.7.3 and 5.7.4 >> and apparently when I open an image with OSProcess 4.4.0 >> the system crashes. I will try to find a mac vm with plugins. >> But if somebody knows it, this is an information I'm looking for. >> Stef >> >> >> On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:38 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded >>>> >>>> >>>> baseline >>>> >>>> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ >>>> spec >>>> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>>> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>>> version: '4.4.0'; >>>> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. >>>> >>>> >>>> version >>>> >>>> spec for: #'common' do: [ >>>> spec >>>> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; >>>> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; >>>> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; >>>> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; >>>> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; >>>> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] >>>> >>>> and when I run the test I get accessor error. >>>> >>>> Any idea what would be problem? >>>> The VM? >>>> >>>> I use 5.7b3 >>> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. >>> Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it >>> means that you do not have the plugin. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >> >> > > UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle.zip (60K) Download Attachment |
Thanks a lot
I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 It crashes. Estaban if you want to get an image crashing: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'ConfigurationOfCoral'; load and (ConfigurationOfCoral project version: '0.4') load as explained in the class comment. Stef On Mar 7, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi Stef, > I'm attaching a plugin compiled that *should* work with 5.7.4 > Please, let me know if it is not the case, and I'll try a fix :) > > Cheers, > Esteban > > <UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle.zip> > > > El 07/03/2011, a las 12:17p.m., Stéphane Ducasse escribió: > >> I tried Squeak4.2.5Beta1U and when I run the tests I get >> forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin >> So it seems that I will not be able to run Coral. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Thanks david >>> >>> Apparently my vm does not have any plugin. >>> I tried to copy the plugin from 4 version to 5.7.3 and 5.7.4 >>> and apparently when I open an image with OSProcess 4.4.0 >>> the system crashes. I will try to find a mac vm with plugins. >>> But if somebody knows it, this is an information I'm looking for. >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:38 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> >>>>> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> baseline >>>>> >>>>> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ >>>>> spec >>>>> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>>>> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>>>> version: '4.4.0'; >>>>> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> version >>>>> >>>>> spec for: #'common' do: [ >>>>> spec >>>>> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; >>>>> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; >>>>> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; >>>>> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; >>>>> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; >>>>> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] >>>>> >>>>> and when I run the test I get accessor error. >>>>> >>>>> Any idea what would be problem? >>>>> The VM? >>>>> >>>>> I use 5.7b3 >>>> >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> >>>> This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. >>>> Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it >>>> means that you do not have the plugin. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
I do not know if it applies here, but the plugins might not be
interchangeable between Cog and the standard VM. The interpreter proxy interfaces are different, and oscog has changes to an internal data structure in the file plugin then might cause problems. I have not looked at it in detail, so just be aware that there could be problems if you use a plugin from the standard VM with cog or vice versa. Also, IIRC there were some earlier OS X VMs (maybe 5.7.4???) that accidently contained a very old OSPP version, and this version could also lead to a crash on OS X. Dave On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 05:14:48PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks a lot > I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 > It crashes. > Estaban if you want to get an image crashing: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Coral'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfCoral'; > load > > and (ConfigurationOfCoral project version: '0.4') load > as explained in the class comment. > > Stef > > > > On Mar 7, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > Hi Stef, > > I'm attaching a plugin compiled that *should* work with 5.7.4 > > Please, let me know if it is not the case, and I'll try a fix :) > > > > Cheers, > > Esteban > > > > <UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle.zip> > > > > > > El 07/03/2011, a las 12:17p.m., St?phane Ducasse escribi?: > > > >> I tried Squeak4.2.5Beta1U and when I run the tests I get > >> forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin > >> So it seems that I will not be able to run Coral. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> > >>> Thanks david > >>> > >>> Apparently my vm does not have any plugin. > >>> I tried to copy the plugin from 4 version to 5.7.3 and 5.7.4 > >>> and apparently when I open an image with OSProcess 4.4.0 > >>> the system crashes. I will try to find a mac vm with plugins. > >>> But if somebody knows it, this is an information I'm looking for. > >>> Stef > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:38 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: > >>>>> Hi guys > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> baseline > >>>>> > >>>>> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ > >>>>> spec > >>>>> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > >>>>> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; > >>>>> version: '4.4.0'; > >>>>> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> version > >>>>> > >>>>> spec for: #'common' do: [ > >>>>> spec > >>>>> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; > >>>>> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; > >>>>> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; > >>>>> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; > >>>>> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; > >>>>> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] > >>>>> > >>>>> and when I run the test I get accessor error. > >>>>> > >>>>> Any idea what would be problem? > >>>>> The VM? > >>>>> > >>>>> I use 5.7b3 > >>>> > >>>> Hi Stef, > >>>> > >>>> This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. > >>>> Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it > >>>> means that you do not have the plugin. > >>>> > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > |
On Mar 7, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: > I do not know if it applies here, but the plugins might not be > interchangeable between Cog and the standard VM. The interpreter > proxy interfaces are different, and oscog has changes to an internal > data structure in the file plugin then might cause problems. I > have not looked at it in detail, so just be aware that there could > be problems if you use a plugin from the standard VM with cog or > vice versa. Ok. Now I do not have cog on my machine because it gets on my nerves to also bind as a default vm (Probably a mac config files but I'm waiting for an official stable version). I only use 4.2.5 and 5.7.4 > > Also, IIRC there were some earlier OS X VMs (maybe 5.7.4???) that > accidently contained a very old OSPP version, and this version > could also lead to a crash on OS X. Ok this is probably the cause of the crash I got. Now with the plugin of esteban I do not know. > > Dave > > > On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 05:14:48PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >> Thanks a lot >> I copied in the resources folder of 5.7.4 >> It crashes. >> Estaban if you want to get an image crashing: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'Coral'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfCoral'; >> load >> >> and (ConfigurationOfCoral project version: '0.4') load >> as explained in the class comment. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Mar 7, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> Hi Stef, >>> I'm attaching a plugin compiled that *should* work with 5.7.4 >>> Please, let me know if it is not the case, and I'll try a fix :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Esteban >>> >>> <UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle.zip> >>> >>> >>> El 07/03/2011, a las 12:17p.m., St?phane Ducasse escribi?: >>> >>>> I tried Squeak4.2.5Beta1U and when I run the tests I get >>>> forkSqueak requires XDisplayControlPlugin >>>> So it seems that I will not be able to run Coral. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks david >>>>> >>>>> Apparently my vm does not have any plugin. >>>>> I tried to copy the plugin from 4 version to 5.7.3 and 5.7.4 >>>>> and apparently when I open an image with OSProcess 4.4.0 >>>>> the system crashes. I will try to find a mac vm with plugins. >>>>> But if somebody knows it, this is an information I'm looking for. >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:38 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 11:44:11AM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm updtating the ConfigurationOfCoral and I loaded >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> baseline >>>>>>> >>>>>>> spec project: 'OSProcess' with: [ >>>>>>> spec >>>>>>> className: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>>>>>> file: 'ConfigurationOfOSProcess'; >>>>>>> version: '4.4.0'; >>>>>>> repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess' ]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> version >>>>>>> >>>>>>> spec for: #'common' do: [ >>>>>>> spec >>>>>>> package: 'Filesystem' with: 'Filesystem-DamienPollet.114'; >>>>>>> project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'; >>>>>>> package: 'AST-Core' with: 'AST-Core-lr.87'; >>>>>>> package: 'PetitParser' with: 'PetitParser-TudorGirba.209'; >>>>>>> package: 'PetitTest' with: 'PetitTests-TudorGirba.28'; >>>>>>> package: 'PetitSmaltalk' with: 'PetitSmalltalk-lr.46'.] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and when I run the test I get accessor error. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any idea what would be problem? >>>>>>> The VM? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use 5.7b3 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>> >>>>>> This probably just means that your VM does not have OSProcessPlugin. >>>>>> Try inspecting "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and if the pid is nil, it >>>>>> means that you do not have the plugin. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
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