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Ronie Salgado

OpenAL bindings.

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,

Ronie

MerwanOuddane

Re: OpenAL bindings.

Nice :)
Note to the people: lower the volume before starting the video ^^

On Jul 10, 2015 3:52 AM, "Ronie Salgado" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,
Ronie

Clément Béra

Re: OpenAL bindings.

In reply to this post by Ronie Salgado

I am interested in playing music in Pharo.

Questions:

- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?

- Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ?

- Where can I download your code ?

Good work,

Best,

Clement

2015-07-10 3:51 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]>:

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,
Ronie

Ronie Salgado

Re: OpenAL bindings.

Hi Clément,

- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?

I don't know. They should work.

- Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ?

It requires an implementation of OpenAL to be available. In Linux I only need to install the OpenAL package. In windows, I have to use the OpenAL soft implementation ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html )

Perhaps there is some tweaking needed in the library search path for OS X.

- Where can I download your code ?

http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OpenAL/

Best regards,

Ronie

2015-07-10 5:56 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <[hidden email]>:

I am interested in playing music in Pharo.

Questions:
- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?
- Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ?
- Where can I download your code ?

Good work,

Best,

Clement

2015-07-10 3:51 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]>:
Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,
Ronie

Clément Béra

Re: OpenAL bindings.

Ok I tried and your examples work out of the box on my mac. Nice work.

Can you please add an example where you play a .wav or .mp3 ? I am not very good at composing music :-)

2015-07-10 14:36 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]>:

Hi Clément,

- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?
I don't know. They should work.

- Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ?
It requires an implementation of OpenAL to be available. In Linux I only need to install the OpenAL package. In windows, I have to use the OpenAL soft implementation ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html )
Perhaps there is some tweaking needed in the library search path for OS X.

- Where can I download your code ?
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OpenAL/

Best regards,
Ronie

2015-07-10 5:56 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <[hidden email]>:
I am interested in playing music in Pharo.

Questions:
- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?
- Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ?
- Where can I download your code ?

Good work,

Best,

Clement

2015-07-10 3:51 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]>:
Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,
Ronie

stepharo

Re: OpenAL bindings.

In reply to this post by Ronie Salgado

Hi ronie
this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden?
To me Woden is for 3D graphics.

Setf

Le 10/7/15 03:51, Ronie Salgado a écrit :

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,

Ronie

philippeback

Re: OpenAL bindings.

More like a game engine I'd say.

So, makes sense to me.

Phil

Le 10 juil. 2015 22:36, "stepharo" <[hidden email]> a écrit :

Hi ronie
this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden?
To me Woden is for 3D graphics.

Setf

Le 10/7/15 03:51, Ronie Salgado a écrit :

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,

Ronie

S Krish

Re: OpenAL bindings.

In reply to this post by Ronie Salgado

Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,
Ronie

Ronie Salgado

Re: OpenAL bindings.

Hi,

this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden?
To me Woden is for 3D graphics.

Woden is actually a game engine. Currently there is even some support for using bullet physics, but it is actually a bit hard to use because it requires compiling the bindings.
Of course, using sound will be optional. Integrating sound support is quite easy. There is only three things that need to be added to woden: Sound sources, sound listener and sound data.

The hardest part with sound is actually being able to play a .wav, .mp3. or a .ogg. Currently I am looking in the PharoSound package for existing infrastructure for loading or streaming these sound formats. But i think, that I will have to add the support for Ogg/Vorbis. I don't like using MP3 because of the infamous patents.

Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.

Well, the only hardware implementation that I know about is the one by Creative. I always use the open source implementation OpenAL Soft ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html ).

I use OpenAL because it is the only cross platform 3D audio API/library that I know about, and because it is really to use. I don't have to worry about multi-threading when using it.

I am not using SDL2 audio support because:

- It uses a callback for filling the sound buffer, which is run in another operating system thread.

- No 3D audio support.

Greetings,

Ronie

2015-07-11 0:30 GMT-03:00 S Krish <[hidden email]>:

Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,
Ronie

stepharo

Re: OpenAL bindings.

Ronie
I suggest that you think more modularly.
Some people will just want some 3D, others everything so this is important that they can use the part they want.
For example we are using Woden for a Thales prototype and there is no need for bullet, openAl.

Stef

Le 11/7/15 08:59, Ronie Salgado a écrit :

Hi,

this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden?
To me Woden is for 3D graphics.

Woden is actually a game engine. Currently there is even some support for using bullet physics, but it is actually a bit hard to use because it requires compiling the bindings.
Of course, using sound will be optional. Integrating sound support is quite easy. There is only three things that need to be added to woden: Sound sources, sound listener and sound data.

The hardest part with sound is actually being able to play a .wav, .mp3. or a .ogg. Currently I am looking in the PharoSound package for existing infrastructure for loading or streaming these sound formats. But i think, that I will have to add the support for Ogg/Vorbis. I don't like using MP3 because of the infamous patents.

Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.

Well, the only hardware implementation that I know about is the one by Creative. I always use the open source implementation OpenAL Soft ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html ).

I use OpenAL because it is the only cross platform 3D audio API/library that I know about, and because it is really to use. I don't have to worry about multi-threading when using it.

I am not using SDL2 audio support because:

- It uses a callback for filling the sound buffer, which is run in another operating system thread.

- No 3D audio support.

Greetings,

Ronie

2015-07-11 0:30 GMT-03:00 S Krish <[hidden email]>:

Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ronie Salgado <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.

Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8

Next, I will integrate it into Woden.

Greetings,

Ronie

HilaireFernandes

Re: OpenAL bindings.

In reply to this post by Ronie Salgado

Le 11/07/2015 14:59, Ronie Salgado a écrit :
> looking in the PharoSound package for existing infrastructure for
> loading or streaming these sound formats. But i think, that I will
> have to add the support for Ogg/Vorbis. I don't like using MP3 because
> of the infamous patents.
I believe there is Ogg/Vorbis support in Squeak, so it can be a good
starting point.

Hilaire

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