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Orphan windows

stefano-franchi
I am pretty sure this issue has been discussed before, but I cannot
locate the thread.

Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no longer
responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
show up in the Process Monitor?

Thanks for  the help.

Cheers,

S.




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University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
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Re: Orphan windows

MarkPetersen
inspect -> ApplicationDialogController allInstances.

Next, inspect the instance that you wish to kill.

Close the original inspector.

In the second inspector, send:

        self locked: true.
        self closeAndUnschedule.

Hope this helps.
Mark

Stefano Franchi wrote
I am pretty sure this issue has been discussed before, but I cannot
locate the thread.

Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no longer
responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
show up in the Process Monitor?

Thanks for  the help.

Cheers,

S.




__________________________________________________
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
Private Bag 92019 s.franchi@auckland.ac.nz
Auckland
New Zealand


__________________________________________________
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
Private Bag 92019 s.franchi@auckland.ac.nz
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RE: Orphan windows

Steven Kelly
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From: Stefano Franchi [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no longer
> responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
> show up in the Process Monitor?

There are plenty of ways, but the following is pretty effective: search
for them with ScheduledWindow allGeneralInstances, and send their
controllers #closeAndUnschedule.

If there are windows that are no longer visible but do not get garbage
collected, try the following:

"Get rid of windows that are hanging around"
WindowManager purgeDeadWindows.
WindowManager allInstances do: [:wm | wm purgeInvalidWindows].
WindowManager restoreAll.
ScheduledWindow purgeInvalidWindows.

HTH,
Steve

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RE: Orphan windows

Steven Kelly
In reply to this post by stefano-franchi
Mark's answer is useful assuming the windows in questions are dialogs
(they frequently are). IIRC, you actually have to send "self locked:
false", not "self locked: true".

HTH,
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: markPetersen [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 28. maaliskuuta 2007 21:33
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Orphan windows
>
>
> inspect -> ApplicationDialogController allInstances.
>
> Next, inspect the instance that you wish to kill.
>
> Close the original inspector.
>
> In the second inspector, send:
>
> self locked: true.
> self closeAndUnschedule.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Mark
>
>
> Stefano Franchi wrote:
> >
> > I am pretty sure this issue has been discussed before, but I cannot
> > locate the thread.
> >
> > Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no
longer

> > responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
> > show up in the Process Monitor?
> >
> > Thanks for  the help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Stefano Franchi
> > Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599
x83940
> > University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
> > Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
> > Auckland
> > New Zealand
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Stefano Franchi
> > Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599
x83940

> > University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
> > Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
> > Auckland
> > New Zealand
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Orphan-windows-
> tf3481132.html#a9718401
> Sent from the VisualWorks mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: Orphan windows

Mark Pirogovsky-3
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Another good way to find all of those dead windows:

Screen default stackedWindows - it will give all Types of windows
including menus and other transients

HTH

--Mark

Steven Kelly wrote:

> From: Stefano Franchi [mailto:[hidden email]]
>
>>Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no longer
>>responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
>>show up in the Process Monitor?
>
>
> There are plenty of ways, but the following is pretty effective: search
> for them with ScheduledWindow allGeneralInstances, and send their
> controllers #closeAndUnschedule.
>
> If there are windows that are no longer visible but do not get garbage
> collected, try the following:
>
> "Get rid of windows that are hanging around"
> WindowManager purgeDeadWindows.
> WindowManager allInstances do: [:wm | wm purgeInvalidWindows].
> WindowManager restoreAll.
> ScheduledWindow purgeInvalidWindows.
>
> HTH,
> Steve
>
>
>

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Re: Orphan windows

Runar Jordahl
Maybe Cincom could investigate this and make a menu option to do whatever works?

Runar Jordahl

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RE: Orphan windows

MarkPetersen
In reply to this post by Steven Kelly
I had gotten this info from CinCom SupportWeb a while back and just copy/pasted it here.  I've used it myself on several occasions.  Steve, interesting that you suggest "self locked: false", which seems logical, but I think I've only used "self locked: true".  Now you make me wonder.  At any rate, better solutions seem to be available for other windows as well.

Mark

Steven Kelly wrote
Mark's answer is useful assuming the windows in questions are dialogs
(they frequently are). IIRC, you actually have to send "self locked:
false", not "self locked: true".

HTH,
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: markPetersen [mailto:mpeterse@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: 28. maaliskuuta 2007 21:33
> To: vwnc@cs.uiuc.edu
> Subject: Re: Orphan windows
>
>
> inspect -> ApplicationDialogController allInstances.
>
> Next, inspect the instance that you wish to kill.
>
> Close the original inspector.
>
> In the second inspector, send:
>
> self locked: true.
> self closeAndUnschedule.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Mark
>
>
> Stefano Franchi wrote:
> >
> > I am pretty sure this issue has been discussed before, but I cannot
> > locate the thread.
> >
> > Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no
longer
> > responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
> > show up in the Process Monitor?
> >
> > Thanks for  the help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Stefano Franchi
> > Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599
x83940
> > University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
> > Private Bag 92019 s.franchi@auckland.ac.nz
> > Auckland
> > New Zealand
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Stefano Franchi
> > Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599
x83940
> > University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
> > Private Bag 92019 s.franchi@auckland.ac.nz
> > Auckland
> > New Zealand
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Orphan-windows-
> tf3481132.html#a9718401
> Sent from the VisualWorks mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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A message from Fred DAG: RE: Orphan windows

Stew MacLean
In reply to this post by stefano-franchi
Yeah Gidday!

The only way to kill these bastards (so the Australians don't have to
ask where the "Bloody Hell They" are) without ya gumboots, is reboot
yaur image mate.

I fiind that when eever I ruun,

integrityCheck

        self isDevelopment
                ifTrue: [VisualLauncher raiseOrOpen].
       
        self
                sourceCodeIntegrityCheck;
                cleanImage;
                log: 'Checking structure...';
                treeStructureCheck;
                log: 'Checking duplicate keys...';
                duplicateKeysCheck;
                log: 'Checking identifiers...';
                identifiersCheck;
                log: 'Checking orphans...';
                orphansCheck.

        self log: 'Integrity checking completed successfully.'.

        self warn: 'System has passed integrity check.'

Tha only way, in spite of the cleany, cleany image routeine...

cleanImage

        "When all else fails need to zap the windows...
        ApplicationWindow allInstances do:
                [: window | window controller closeAndUnschedule].
        "
        3 timesRepeat:
        [ScheduledWindow purgeInvalidWindows.
        UI.WindowManager
                purgeDeadWindows;
                restoreAll.
        "Remove references to TextView which holds onto InspectorShells"
        Tools.Trippy.InspectorShell.SharedTextHolder breakDependents.
        Trippy.Clipboard default empty.
        TransientWindow initialize. "flush menu cache"

        "CurrentWindow appeared to be holding onto reference?"
        Parcel
                flushClassParcelMap;
                computeParcelMap.

        self globalGarbageCollect]

is to do all of the above and reboot yah image, mate. FKW.

Fred DAG (Directed Acyclic Graph)

PS Yeah Right!

PSS :)


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stefano Franchi [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: 29 March 2007 3:39 a.m.
>To: 'vwnc'
>Cc: Stefano Franchi
>Subject: Orphan windows
>
>I am pretty sure this issue has been discussed before, but I cannot
>locate the thread.
>
>Question: how do you get rid of orphan windows when they are no longer
>responsive to the user (either via mouse or keyboard) AND they don't
>show up in the Process Monitor?
>
>Thanks for  the help.
>
>Cheers,
>
>S.
>
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Stefano Franchi
>Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
>University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
>Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
>Auckland
>New Zealand
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Stefano Franchi
>Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
>University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
>Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
>Auckland
>New Zealand