Pharo 60 needs help on shortcuts-are-wrongly-displayed

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19660/shortcuts-are-wrongly-displayed

 

The system should display Ctrl + s and not Ctrl + S

 

Because people are pressing Shift to get S and this is not working.

We should distinguish between uppercase and lowercase.

The reader cannot guess that S is not the same as s + shift.

There is no way that a user can know that they should NOT press shift when looking at Ctrl + S (because there is no noshiftPressed).

Ctrl + S means press Shift.

On 7 Feb 2017, at 10:57, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote:

The uperchase character is the symbol on the key.

In OS X the uppercase characters are used:

http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/access-library-lion.jpg

In Chrome too:

http://addoncrop.com/cdn/2014/12/Google-Chrome-Menu-Settions-option.png

On Windows too:

http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/650x250xcontext-menu-shortcuts-header.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.SuZmOlpqkt.png

Cheers,

-- Pavel

2017-02-06 17:57 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19660/shortcuts-are-wrongly-displayed

 

The system should display Ctrl + s and not Ctrl + S

 

Because people are pressing Shift to get S and this is not working.

We should distinguish between uppercase and lowercase.

The reader cannot guess that S is not the same as s + shift.

There is no way that a user can know that they should NOT press shift when looking at Ctrl + S (because there is no noshiftPressed).

Ctrl + S means press Shift.

key shorcuts are for key, not for character, that’s why they point to the key in the keyboard. 

this is the universal standard, so I do not think we need to change it. 

as Pavel explain, is like that : 

- on mac: symbols + key

- on linux and windows: modifiers + key (e.g. "Shift + S", "Ctrl + Shift + S")

cheers, 

Esteban

I back up Pavel and Esteban here.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 7 Feb 2017, at 10:57, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote:

The uperchase character is the symbol on the key.

In OS X the uppercase characters are used:

http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/access-library-lion.jpg

In Chrome too:

http://addoncrop.com/cdn/2014/12/Google-Chrome-Menu-Settions-option.png

On Windows too:

http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/650x250xcontext-menu-shortcuts-header.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.SuZmOlpqkt.png

Cheers,

-- Pavel

2017-02-06 17:57 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19660/shortcuts-are-wrongly-displayed

 

The system should display Ctrl + s and not Ctrl + S

 

Because people are pressing Shift to get S and this is not working.

We should distinguish between uppercase and lowercase.

The reader cannot guess that S is not the same as s + shift.

There is no way that a user can know that they should NOT press shift when looking at Ctrl + S (because there is no noshiftPressed).

Ctrl + S means press Shift.

key shorcuts are for key, not for character, that’s why they point to the key in the keyboard. 

this is the universal standard, so I do not think we need to change it. 

as Pavel explain, is like that : 

- on mac: symbols + key

- on linux and windows: modifiers + key (e.g. "Shift + S", "Ctrl + Shift + S")

cheers, 

Esteban