Pharo-Dev/web Image slowness

Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
> So, please correct me if I am wrong:
>
> 1) The most secure cross-fork way to update Monticello for clean images is
>
> HTTPSocket httpFileIn: 'ftp.squeak.org/3.11/scripts/LPF.st
> <http://ftp.squeak.org/3.11/scripts/LPF.st>'.
that method is not supported in older squeaks.
> 2) Installer is necessary to update Monticello to 1.5 or 1.6
>
> 3) It is well-know that packages like OmniBrowser doesn't load after
> this update is done? (at least in Squeak images)
>
Thats possibly a bug in OB, it calls withSubclassesDo: on a trait.

Its not well known to me, fixing the above I can generate the dev images

> See http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7369
If other patches are required, the monticello scripts for loading into
Pharo are in InstallerScripts, and you are welcome to maintain them there

Keith


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Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Ok we will fix that for 1.0
> right now we are not even in beta.
>
>  
As a minor point, running Pharo on a network drive is *horrifically*
slow so don't do that :)


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Can you elaborate on what is slow?
Is this only Pharo or also Squeak?

Adrian

On Jul 17, 2009, at 01:07 , Douglas Brebner wrote:


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Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> Can you elaborate on what is slow?
> Is this only Pharo or also Squeak?
>
>  
Anything that hits the changes file such as compiling or many MC operations.
e.g. When you see the a popup saying "Snapshotting" it's time to go get
something to eat.
And yes, it affects Squeak too.

The speed difference between running it on a local hard drive and a
remote one is incredible.

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Douglas Brebner wrote:

> Anything that hits the changes file such as compiling or many MC operations.
> e.g. When you see the a popup saying "Snapshotting" it's time to go get
> something to eat.
> And yes, it affects Squeak too.

Not only Squeak. Ever tried to open an OpenOffice document from a
network drive?

Michael

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I imagine that the snapshotting goes over the SourceFiles

I also know that nicolas proposed a speed up of latin files.

Stef
On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Douglas Brebner wrote:


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Speed is good, more speed is better.  But my experience is that network drives are convenient (when they work), and otherwise slow and unreliable.  Running a Smalltalk system over one is not something I would want to do for fear of losing the connection and therefore my work.  Just my 2 asCents.  Of course, it might be an interesting test case to profile to find a bottleneck.

Bill


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Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> Can you elaborate on what is slow?
> Is this only Pharo or also Squeak?
>
>  
Anything that hits the changes file such as compiling or many MC operations.
e.g. When you see the a popup saying "Snapshotting" it's time to go get something to eat.
And yes, it affects Squeak too.

The speed difference between running it on a local hard drive and a remote one is incredible.

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