Dear folks, Now Pharo beta 1.0 is out, and since the link http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books suggests the use of "Squeak By Example" as a first reference, I noticed that a person following the book and using Pharo will not: 1) Be able to run the SqueakMap example from the Quick Tour; 2) Be able to create the SBECell (and as consequence build the Quinto example) because the image does not have anymore SimpleSwitchMorph (used to be in Morphic-Extras, but in Pharo this package has only PaintBoxMorph and PaintBoxColorPicker). From the list I undertand the main reason classes have been dropped in Pharo image, on the other hand, I think a note in documentation page could either: a) A note mentioning that for following the book the interested person should use a specific image prepared for that (which the SBE www site point to); b) Put a list of instructions on how to adapt the directions on the book in order to be able to use the Pharo image successfully. As older messages make me believe Oscar already is doing something on this lines I don't know still if any further investigation for 'b' above is necessary, however if this can be useful, I can give a look on it! Regards, -- Cesar Rabak _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
El sáb, 08-08-2009 a las 17:51 -0300, [hidden email] escribió:
> Dear folks, > > Now Pharo beta 1.0 is out, and since the link > > http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books suggests > the use of "Squeak By Example" as a first reference, I noticed that a > person following the book and using Pharo will not: > > 1) Be able to run the SqueakMap example from the Quick Tour; > > 2) Be able to create the SBECell (and as consequence build the Quinto > example) because the image does not have anymore SimpleSwitchMorph > (used to be in Morphic-Extras, but in Pharo this package has only > PaintBoxMorph and PaintBoxColorPicker). There is a new version of the book in the works, aimed to Pharo. By the moment, I agree with you that a disclaimer should be added and maybe the first drafts of the book should be uploaded to the site, at least to review and feedback to the authors. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Thanks for the feedback.
I added a note to the website. Adrian On Aug 8, 2009, at 22:59 , Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote: > El sáb, 08-08-2009 a las 17:51 -0300, [hidden email] escribió: >> Dear folks, >> >> Now Pharo beta 1.0 is out, and since the link >> >> http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books suggests >> the use of "Squeak By Example" as a first reference, I noticed that a >> person following the book and using Pharo will not: >> >> 1) Be able to run the SqueakMap example from the Quick Tour; >> >> 2) Be able to create the SBECell (and as consequence build the Quinto >> example) because the image does not have anymore SimpleSwitchMorph >> (used to be in Morphic-Extras, but in Pharo this package has only >> PaintBoxMorph and PaintBoxColorPicker). > > There is a new version of the book in the works, aimed to Pharo. By > the > moment, I agree with you that a disclaimer should be added and maybe > the > first drafts of the book should be uploaded to the site, at least to > review and feedback to the authors. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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We hope to have pharo by example for august.
Stef On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:51 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > Dear folks, > > Now Pharo beta 1.0 is out, and since the link > > http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books suggests > the use of "Squeak By Example" as a first reference, I noticed that > a person following the book and using Pharo will not: > > 1) Be able to run the SqueakMap example from the Quick Tour; > > 2) Be able to create the SBECell (and as consequence build the > Quinto example) because the image does not have anymore > SimpleSwitchMorph (used to be in Morphic-Extras, but in Pharo this > package has only PaintBoxMorph and PaintBoxColorPicker). > > From the list I undertand the main reason classes have been dropped > in Pharo image, on the other hand, I think a note in documentation > page could either: > > a) A note mentioning that for following the book the interested > person should use a specific image prepared for that (which the SBE > www site point to); > > b) Put a list of instructions on how to adapt the directions on the > book in order to be able to use the Pharo image successfully. > > As older messages make me believe Oscar already is doing something > on this lines I don't know still if any further investigation for > 'b' above is necessary, however if this can be useful, I can give a > look on it! > > Regards, > > -- > > Cesar Rabak > GNU/Linux User 52247. > Get counted: http://counter.li.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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> There is a new version of the book in the works, aimed to Pharo. By
> the > moment, I agree with you that a disclaimer should be added and maybe > the > first drafts of the book should be uploaded to the site, at least to > review and feedback to the authors. Yes, we are currently working on Pharo by Example. We hope to make a release soon. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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