[Pharo-dev] CameraPlugin for (Pharo) VM

> We once had a discussion already, to summarize:
>  - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1]
>  - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
>
> We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
>
> But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion)
> I just found by accident this old issue:
>
>  http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
>
> <quotes>
> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
>
> "Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is
>  now available under MIT license:"
>
> "Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license."
> </quote>
>
> Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
>
> Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition
> to our Pharo universe.
>

> On 17 July 2013 15:30, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> We once had a discussion already, to summarize:
>> - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1]
>> - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
>>
>> We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
>>
>> But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion)
>> I just found by accident this old issue:
>>
>> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
>>
>> <quotes>
>> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
>>
>> "Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is
>> now available under MIT license:"
>>
>> "Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license."
>> </quote>
>>
>> Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
>>
>> Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition
>> to our Pharo universe.
>>
>
> If we include that plugin into VM, then there should be someone , who
> will take responsibility for maintaining and improving it.
>
> And that means:
> - making sure it works on all 3 major platforms (at least) and not
> breaks with new version(s) releases
> - updates the code, improves it etc
> - keep image-side code in good shape covered by tests and updated
> regularly , as Pharo make progress
> - have a good documentation
>
> any volunteers?
> I could, but i can't , because i already have multiple projects to
> care about. And i am close to limits of personal physical capabilities
> to keep things up.
>
> I didn't wanted to discourage anyone, but just wanted to remind that
> 'including into pharo' means a lot more than 'copying files there',
> otherwise it is not 'including', but planting timebomb which will
> explode eventually.

>
>> Thx
>> T.
>>
>>
>> [1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051826.html
>> [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051838.html
>> [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051843.html
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko.
>

> On 17 July 2013 15:30, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> We once had a discussion already, to summarize:
>> - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1]
>> - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
>>
>> We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
>>
>> But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion)
>> I just found by accident this old issue:
>>
>> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
>>
>> <quotes>
>> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
>>
>> "Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is
>> now available under MIT license:"
>>
>> "Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license."
>> </quote>
>>
>> Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
>>
>> Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition
>> to our Pharo universe.
>>
>
> If we include that plugin into VM, then there should be someone , who
> will take responsibility for maintaining and improving it.
>
> And that means:
> - making sure it works on all 3 major platforms (at least) and not
> breaks with new version(s) releases
> - updates the code, improves it etc
> - keep image-side code in good shape covered by tests and updated
> regularly , as Pharo make progress
> - have a good documentation
>
> any volunteers?
> I could, but i can't , because i already have multiple projects to
> care about. And i am close to limits of personal physical capabilities
> to keep things up.
>
> I didn't wanted to discourage anyone, but just wanted to remind that
> 'including into pharo' means a lot more than 'copying files there',
> otherwise it is not 'including', but planting timebomb which will
> explode eventually.

> We once had a discussion already, to summarize:
> - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1]
> - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
>
> We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
>
> But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion)
> I just found by accident this old issue:
>
> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
>
> <quotes>
> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
>
> "Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is
> now available under MIT license:"
>
> "Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license."
> </quote>
>
> Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
>
> Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition
> to our Pharo universe.
>
> Thx
> T.
>
>
> [1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051826.html
> [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051838.html
> [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051843.html
>