Pharo for the Raspberry Pi

> Wow. Now that makes an improvement. And that's on a stackvm with no fasterbitblt support yet."
>
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> [hidden email] wrote:
>> I guess you're aware of Tim Rowledge's work...
>> http://forum.world.st/New-faster-RISC-OS-Squeak-td4668157.html
>> http://www.rowledge.org/tim/squeak/
>>
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> Nick Ager wrote:
>> > Hi Sven and others,
>> >
>> > I've attached a screen shot of Pharo 20623.image running on the Raspberry
>> > Pi - I'd connected through a VNC session into my Mac. The image is almost
>> > unusably slow - I don't know if the problem lays in the graphical
>> > performance + VNC rather than the bytecode execution. tinyBenchmarks give:
>> >
>> > 0 tinyBenchmarks '10471204 bytecodes/sec; 307552 sends/sec'
>> >
>> > I came across a "PrimitiveFailed" walk-back from NativeBoost
>> > class>>#isEnabled and just commented out the primitive call and instead
>> > returned false. I guess this is probably as the VM sources I have date back
>> > to April/May so probably aren't completely compatible with 2.0.
>> >
>> > I've shared my Raspberry Pi build folder "result" on dropbox, which
>> > contains the StackVM executable built on the Pi:
>> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cnta1hjoo7ptv1j/CELvuMjIRl
>> >
>> > I haven't tried installing the built StackVM onto a clean Pi distribution
>> > so don't know if any of the packages I installed during the build process
>> > will also be required for executing the StackVM - don't complain too loudly
>> > if just copying the contents from dropbox doesn't work directly on your Pi.
>> >
>> > I found some more notes I made while trying to compile the VM - though
>> > reading them back they seem more like the ramblings of a mad man and I'm
>> > sure the problems I ran into compiling the StackVM will be sorted by now:
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZIzvTmV4zkYrFgOdAzfZzC35iMAqI2jc-44XQO9wSwc/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > Also note that Pharo1.2.1 works with the VM used for Scratch in the
>> > Raspberry Pi distribution - without the need to build your own VM.
>> >
>> > Sorry I don't have many free cycles to support, but hope this might help
>> > someone to create a "blessed" Raspberry Pi Pharo VM
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Nick
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 October 2013 12:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> >   >> Hi Nick,
>> >>
>> >> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months
>> >>>       >> ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to
>> >> write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>> >>
>> >> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile
>> >> locally ;-)
>> >>
>> >> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0
>> >> (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>> >>
>> >> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term
>> >> solution.
>> >>
>> >> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with
>> >> this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us
>> >> weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Sven
>> >>
>> >>     >>> The procedure I took was:
>> >>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was
>> >>>       >> easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>> >>     >>> * Export the StackVM source
>> >>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>> >>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly
>> >>>       >> the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>> >>     >>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>> >>>
>> >>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a
>> >>>       >> reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>> >>     >>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>> >>>
>> >>> On the raspberry PI:
>> >>> # install build tools
>> >>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>> >>>
>> >>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>> >>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev
>> >>>       >> libgl1-mesa-dev
>> >>     >>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>> >>>
>> >>> # to fix:
>> >>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>> >>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>> >>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>> >>>
>> >>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>> >>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>> >>>
>> >>> Once the source is installed:
>> >>>
>> >>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>> >>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>> >>>
>> >>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have
>> >>>       >> changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified
>> >> the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>> >>     >>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>> >>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>> >>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>> >>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hope this helps
>> >>>
>> >>> Nick
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thierry
>> >>>
>> >>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>> Thierry,
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>
>> >>>       >> wrote:
>> >>     >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent
>> >>>       >> if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>> >>     >>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi)
>> >>>       >> but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>> >>     >>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>> >>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sven
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thierry
>> >>> --
>> >>> Thierry Goubier
>> >>> CEA list
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Thierry Goubier
>> >>> CEA list
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>> >>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>> >>> France
>> >>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>       >>
>> >>     >
>> >   >
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>>  
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> On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:45 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Also there is the '[squeak-dev] CharacterScanner and stopConditions' thread
>> following which Tim comments in [vm-dev] "...prompted me to try the latest image with all the new character scanner stuff as well.
>
> Can you explain what is the new chararcter stuff?
> Is it at the vm level? or at the image one?
> if this is at the image one it is in Pharo?
> Because I missed that.

> Stef
>
>
>
>> Wow. Now that makes an improvement. And that's on a stackvm with no fasterbitblt support yet."
>>
>>
>> [hidden email] wrote:
>>> I guess you're aware of Tim Rowledge's work...
>>> http://forum.world.st/New-faster-RISC-OS-Squeak-td4668157.html
>>> http://www.rowledge.org/tim/squeak/
>>>
>>> cheers -ben
>>>
>>> Nick Ager wrote:
>>>> Hi Sven and others,
>>>>
>>>> I've attached a screen shot of Pharo 20623.image running on the Raspberry
>>>> Pi - I'd connected through a VNC session into my Mac. The image is almost
>>>> unusably slow - I don't know if the problem lays in the graphical
>>>> performance + VNC rather than the bytecode execution. tinyBenchmarks give:
>>>>
>>>> 0 tinyBenchmarks '10471204 bytecodes/sec; 307552 sends/sec'
>>>>
>>>> I came across a "PrimitiveFailed" walk-back from NativeBoost
>>>> class>>#isEnabled and just commented out the primitive call and instead
>>>> returned false. I guess this is probably as the VM sources I have date back
>>>> to April/May so probably aren't completely compatible with 2.0.
>>>>
>>>> I've shared my Raspberry Pi build folder "result" on dropbox, which
>>>> contains the StackVM executable built on the Pi:
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cnta1hjoo7ptv1j/CELvuMjIRl
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried installing the built StackVM onto a clean Pi distribution
>>>> so don't know if any of the packages I installed during the build process
>>>> will also be required for executing the StackVM - don't complain too loudly
>>>> if just copying the contents from dropbox doesn't work directly on your Pi.
>>>>
>>>> I found some more notes I made while trying to compile the VM - though
>>>> reading them back they seem more like the ramblings of a mad man and I'm
>>>> sure the problems I ran into compiling the StackVM will be sorted by now:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZIzvTmV4zkYrFgOdAzfZzC35iMAqI2jc-44XQO9wSwc/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Also note that Pharo1.2.1 works with the VM used for Scratch in the
>>>> Raspberry Pi distribution - without the need to build your own VM.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I don't have many free cycles to support, but hope this might help
>>>> someone to create a "blessed" Raspberry Pi Pharo VM
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2 October 2013 12:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nick,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months
>>>>>>>> ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to
>>>>> write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>>>>>
>>>>> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile
>>>>> locally ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0
>>>>> (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term
>>>>> solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with
>>>>> this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us
>>>>> weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The procedure I took was:
>>>>>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was
>>>>>>>> easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>>>>>>>> * Export the StackVM source
>>>>>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>>>>>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly
>>>>>>>> the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>>>>>>>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a
>>>>>>>> reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>>>>>>>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the raspberry PI:
>>>>>> # install build tools
>>>>>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>>>>>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev
>>>>>>>> libgl1-mesa-dev
>>>>>>>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # to fix:
>>>>>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>>>>>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>>>>>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>>>>>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once the source is installed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>>>>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have
>>>>>>>> changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified
>>>>> the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>>>>>>>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>>>>>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>>>>>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>>>>>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thierry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent
>>>>>>>> if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>>>>>>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi)
>>>>>>>> but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>>>>>>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>>>>>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thierry Goubier
>>>>>> CEA list
>>>>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>>>>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>>>>>> France
>>>>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thierry Goubier
>>>>>> CEA list
>>>>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>>>>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>>>>>> France
>>>>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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