Pharo for the Raspberry Pi

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>
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> Thierry,
>
> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>
>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>
> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.

> Sven
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Thierry
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>
>

> On 2 October 2013 10:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thierry,
>>
>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>>
>>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>
>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>
> It would require a whole new VM wouldn't it? Or did the switch to a
> Cog VM only happen during the 3.0 cycle? (Because Cog doesn't run on
> ARM.)

> frank
>
>> Sven
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Thierry
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>>
>>
>

> Hi thierry
>
> we planned to see how we can compile a new VM Stack with JB on rasp but I got sick and stuck at home.
> But yes this is on our radar.
>
> Stef
>
>
>
>

> Thierry,
>
> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>
>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>
> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>
> Sven
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Thierry
>> --
>> Thierry Goubier
>> CEA list
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>>
>
>
>
>

>
> Thierry
>
> Le 02/10/2013 11:15, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Hi thierry
>>
>> we planned to see how we can compile a new VM Stack with JB on rasp but I got sick and stuck at home.
>> But yes this is on our radar.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>

> The procedure I took was:
> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
> * Export the StackVM source
> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>
> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>
> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>
> On the raspberry PI:
> # install build tools
> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>
> # dependencies for vm plugins
> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
>
> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>
> # to fix:
> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>
> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>
> Once the source is installed:
>
> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>
> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>
> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Nick
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>
> Thierry
>
> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>
> Thierry,
>
> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>
> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>
> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>
> Sven
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thierry
> --
> Thierry Goubier
> CEA list
> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
>

> Hi,
>
> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months
> ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to
> write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>
> The procedure I took was:
> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was
> easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
> * Export the StackVM source
> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly
> the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>
> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a
> reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>
> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>
> On the raspberry PI:
> # install build tools
> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>
> # dependencies for vm plugins
> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev
> libgl1-mesa-dev
>
> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>
> # to fix:
> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>
> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>
> Once the source is installed:
>
> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>
> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have
> changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I
> modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>
> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Nick
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>
>     Thierry
>
>     Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>
>         Thierry,
>
>         On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry
>         <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>             Hi all,
>
>             I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of
>             pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>
>             I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the
>             RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>
>
>         Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>         Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>
>         Sven
>
>             Thanks,
>
>             Thierry
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>             Thierry Goubier
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>     --
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>
>

> Hi Nick,
>
> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>
> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile locally ;-)
>
> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0 (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>
> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term solution.
>
> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sven
>
>> The procedure I took was:
>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>> * Export the StackVM source
>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>>
>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>>
>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>>
>> On the raspberry PI:
>> # install build tools
>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>>
>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
>>
>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>>
>> # to fix:
>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>>
>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>>
>> Once the source is installed:
>>
>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>>
>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>>
>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>
>> Thierry,
>>
>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>
>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>
>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Thierry
>> --
>> Thierry Goubier
>> CEA list
>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>> France
>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thierry Goubier
>> CEA list
>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>> France
>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

> Hi Sven,
>
> if we manage that stage I'll write that up. This looks like good info to start with :)
>
> Thierry
>
> Le 02/10/2013 13:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>>
>> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile locally ;-)
>>
>> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0 (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>>
>> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term solution.
>>
>> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>> The procedure I took was:
>>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>>> * Export the StackVM source
>>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>>>
>>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>>>
>>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>>>
>>> On the raspberry PI:
>>> # install build tools
>>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>>>
>>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>>>
>>> # to fix:
>>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>>>
>>> Once the source is installed:
>>>
>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>>>
>>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>>>
>>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thierry,
>>>
>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>>
>>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>>
>>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>>>
>>> Sven
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>> --
>>> Thierry Goubier
>>> CEA list
>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>>> France
>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thierry Goubier
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Maybe I find some time tomorrow to try this out myself. If somebody is super eager to do that stuff I might install remote access to our rasp.
>
> Norbert
>
> Am 02.10.2013 um 13:58 schrieb Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> if we manage that stage I'll write that up. This looks like good info to start with :)
>>
>> Thierry
>>
>> Le 02/10/2013 13:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>>>
>>> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile locally ;-)
>>>
>>> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0 (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>>>
>>> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term solution.
>>>
>>> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sven
>>>
>>>> The procedure I took was:
>>>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>>>> * Export the StackVM source
>>>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>>>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>>>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>>>>
>>>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>>>>
>>>> On the raspberry PI:
>>>> # install build tools
>>>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>>>>
>>>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>>>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>>>>
>>>> # to fix:
>>>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>>>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>>>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>>>>
>>>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>>>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>>>>
>>>> Once the source is installed:
>>>>
>>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>>>>
>>>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>>>>
>>>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>>>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>>>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>>>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>>>>
>>>> Thierry
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Thierry,
>>>>
>>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>>>
>>>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>>>
>>>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>>>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>>>>
>>>> Sven
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Thierry
>>>> --
>>>> Thierry Goubier
>>>> CEA list
>>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>>>> France
>>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thierry Goubier
>>>> CEA list
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>>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>

> Hi Sven,
>
> if we manage that stage I'll write that up. This looks like good info to start with :)
>
> Thierry
>
> Le 02/10/2013 13:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>>
>> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile locally ;-)
>>
>> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0 (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>>
>> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term solution.
>>
>> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>> The procedure I took was:
>>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>>> * Export the StackVM source
>>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>>>
>>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>>>
>>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>>>
>>> On the raspberry PI:
>>> # install build tools
>>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>>>
>>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>>>
>>> # to fix:
>>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>>>
>>> Once the source is installed:
>>>
>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>>>
>>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>>>
>>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thierry,
>>>
>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>>
>>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>>
>>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>>>
>>> Sven
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>> --
>>> Thierry Goubier
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thierry Goubier
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>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Thierry Goubier
> CEA list
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>

> Thierry
>
> Le 02/10/2013 13:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
>>
>> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile locally ;-)
>>
>> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0 (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
>>
>> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term solution.
>>
>> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>> The procedure I took was:
>>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
>>> * Export the StackVM source
>>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
>>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
>>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
>>>
>>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
>>>
>>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
>>>
>>> On the raspberry PI:
>>> # install build tools
>>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
>>>
>>> # dependencies for vm plugins
>>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl1-mesa-dev
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
>>>
>>> # to fix:
>>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
>>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
>>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
>>>
>>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
>>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
>>>
>>> Once the source is installed:
>>>
>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
>>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
>>>
>>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
>>>
>>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
>>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
>>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
>>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thierry,
>>>
>>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
>>>
>>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi) but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
>>>
>>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
>>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
>>>
>>> Sven
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>> --
>>> Thierry Goubier
>>> CEA list
>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>>> France
>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thierry Goubier
>>> CEA list
>>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>>> France
>>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Thierry Goubier
> CEA list
> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
> France
> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
>

> I guess you're aware of Tim Rowledge's work...
> http://forum.world.st/New-faster-RISC-OS-Squeak-td4668157.html
> http://www.rowledge.org/tim/squeak/
>
> cheers -ben
>
> Nick Ager wrote:
> > Hi Sven and others,
> >
> > I've attached a screen shot of Pharo 20623.image running on the Raspberry
> > Pi - I'd connected through a VNC session into my Mac. The image is almost
> > unusably slow - I don't know if the problem lays in the graphical
> > performance + VNC rather than the bytecode execution. tinyBenchmarks give:
> >
> > 0 tinyBenchmarks '10471204 bytecodes/sec; 307552 sends/sec'
> >
> > I came across a "PrimitiveFailed" walk-back from NativeBoost
> > class>>#isEnabled and just commented out the primitive call and instead
> > returned false. I guess this is probably as the VM sources I have date back
> > to April/May so probably aren't completely compatible with 2.0.
> >
> > I've shared my Raspberry Pi build folder "result" on dropbox, which
> > contains the StackVM executable built on the Pi:
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cnta1hjoo7ptv1j/CELvuMjIRl
> >
> > I haven't tried installing the built StackVM onto a clean Pi distribution
> > so don't know if any of the packages I installed during the build process
> > will also be required for executing the StackVM - don't complain too loudly
> > if just copying the contents from dropbox doesn't work directly on your Pi.
> >
> > I found some more notes I made while trying to compile the VM - though
> > reading them back they seem more like the ramblings of a mad man and I'm
> > sure the problems I ran into compiling the StackVM will be sorted by now:
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZIzvTmV4zkYrFgOdAzfZzC35iMAqI2jc-44XQO9wSwc/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Also note that Pharo1.2.1 works with the VM used for Scratch in the
> > Raspberry Pi distribution - without the need to build your own VM.
> >
> > Sorry I don't have many free cycles to support, but hope this might help
> > someone to create a "blessed" Raspberry Pi Pharo VM
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2 October 2013 12:47, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >> Hi Nick,
> >>
> >> On 02 Oct 2013, at 11:51, Nick Ager <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I managed to compile a StackVM on the raspberry Pi - a couple of months
> >>>      
> >> ago - though I haven't tried with the latest StackVM source. I meant to
> >> write it up, but life got in the way I'm afraid.
> >>
> >> What you did (and I can't) is indeed what should be done: recompile
> >> locally ;-)
> >>
> >> So the conclusion is that it worked and that you can now run Pharo 2.0
> >> (and presumable 3.0) as well ?
> >>
> >> That would be excellent and important news !  And the best short term
> >> solution.
> >>
> >> Either you (but you lack time) or somebody else who feels at home with
> >> this stuff should redo your steps and produce the actual VM, so that us
> >> weak high-level programmers can have our Pharo and play ;-)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Sven
> >>
> >>    
> >>> The procedure I took was:
> >>> * From a PC running Pharo install VMMaker packages (I found it was
> >>>      
> >> easiest to run under a Linux (eg Ubuntu) to match the PIs OS.
> >>    
> >>> * Export the StackVM source
> >>> * Install the build tools on the raspberry Pi
> >>> * Copy exported StackVM source (need to ensure it is copied to exactly
> >>>      
> >> the same place, eg /home/nick/build)
> >>    
> >>> * Build and test with Pharo2.0.image
> >>>
> >>> I choose to build on the Raspberry Pi as in my experience setting up a
> >>>      
> >> reliable cross-compiling environment can take days.
> >>    
> >>> Here are some notes I made at the time:
> >>>
> >>> On the raspberry PI:
> >>> # install build tools
> >>> sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake
> >>>
> >>> # dependencies for vm plugins
> >>> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libssl-dev libfreetype6-dev
> >>>      
> >> libgl1-mesa-dev
> >>    
> >>> sudo apt-get install build-essential
> >>>
> >>> # to fix:
> >>> # /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
> >>> #/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lICE
> >>> # create the following links in: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/
> >>>
> >>> sudo ln -s libSM.so.6 libSM.so
> >>> sudo ln -s libICE.so.6 libICE.so
> >>>
> >>> Once the source is installed:
> >>>
> >>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/version
> >>> chmod +x platforms/unix/config/verstamp
> >>>
> >>> At the time I had to patch a couple of files, but that might have
> >>>      
> >> changed with later versions of the StackVM source. My notes say I modified
> >> the following, though don't indicate what I changed:
> >>    
> >>> platforms/Cross/vm/sqAtomicOps.h
> >>> platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixITimerHeartbeat.c
> >>> platforms/unix/vm/vmVersionInfo.h
> >>> src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2 October 2013 10:31, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>> Ok, thanks for the info, Sven.
> >>>
> >>> Thierry
> >>>
> >>> Le 02/10/2013 11:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> Thierry,
> >>>
> >>> On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:14, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]>
> >>>      
> >> wrote:
> >>    
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying to know if it is possible to run a version of pharo, recent
> >>>      
> >> if possible, on the Raspberry Pi?
> >>    
> >>> I know that there is a squeak vm on Raspian (Debian for the RaspberryPi)
> >>>      
> >> but it doesn't load recent pharo images.
> >>    
> >>> Using the VM that comes with Raspbian, you can run Pharo 1.4.
> >>> Pharo 2.0 requires additional VM support.
> >>>
> >>> Sven
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Thierry
> >>> --
> >>> Thierry Goubier
> >>> CEA list
> >>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
> >>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
> >>> France
> >>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thierry Goubier
> >>> CEA list
> >>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
> >>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
> >>> France
> >>> Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>
> >>    
> >
> >  
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
>