Pharo general questions for a commercial application

Hi,

My name is Bruno i'been using Smalltalk since 1999 for commercial
applications, mostly Dolphin, GemStone/S and Visual Works.

Now we have a commercial project and we are going to use Pharo :)

So we have some general questions.

1) Which version of Pharo to use in a production deployment 6.1 or 7.0 ?

2) We need a local database to Pharo app, which open source database is
better to use with Pharo: mysql, postgree or .... In term of packages for
Pharo.
There is https://guillep.github.io/DBXTalk/ but i do not know if is up to
date.

3) There is any documentation about deployment and maintenance for a Pharo +
Seaside app ?
I have found "2016-10-06-EnterprisePharo.pdf" but may there are other
sources...

regards,
bruno



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Hi Bruno,

> On 20 Feb 2019, at 02:26, BrunoBB <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Bruno i'been using Smalltalk since 1999 for commercial
> applications, mostly Dolphin, GemStone/S and Visual Works.
>
> Now we have a commercial project and we are going to use Pharo :)

Great !

> So we have some general questions.
>
> 1) Which version of Pharo to use in a production deployment 6.1 or 7.0 ?

7.0.1 for sure.

> 2) We need a local database to Pharo app, which open source database is
> better to use with Pharo: mysql, postgree or .... In term of packages for
> Pharo.
> There is https://guillep.github.io/DBXTalk/ but i do not know if is up to
> date.

There are multiple options. I think with your background/experience, it comes down mostly to your own preferences. What do you like to use (SQL or not) ? How much assistance do you need (object mapper or not) ?

There are also

https://github.com/svenvc/P3 (a newer PostgreSQL client).

http://books.pharo.org/booklet-Voyage/ (non-SQL)

http://books.pharo.org/booklet-Glorp/ (Object Mapper)

...

> 3) There is any documentation about deployment and maintenance for a Pharo +
> Seaside app ?
> I have found "2016-10-06-EnterprisePharo.pdf" but may there are other
> sources...

Here too, you have many options, depending on style/experience. Like you said:

There is https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/DeploymentWeb/DeployForProduction.html ?

You can also study this https://github.com/svenvc/pharo-server-tools

In any case, this is a solved problem (apart from session sharing, but you can get far with session affinity).

Please keep on asking questions, so that we can help you with your technology/stack POC.

Sven

> regards,
> bruno
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Sven,

Thanks for you answer and links.

SQL will be enough and no need for a complex ORM.

I will take a look at:
https://github.com/svenvc/pharo-server-tools

Thanks again !

regards,
bruno

PS: my client has an running Java app and need another app to do some
functionality and they will give Smalltalk (Pharo) and opportunity. The apps
will be connected through a database and web services.




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Hi Esteban,

Nice to see you here too...

The web application will run Linux 64bits, the Pharo 64bits for Linux is
stable or i should use a 32bit VM ?

Thanks for all the information slowly but surely we will implement this app.

Also it seems that Pharo has a very active community !!!

regards,
bruno



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Pharo 7/8 is 64-bits by default on macOS and Linux, no problems there.

It is :)


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> regards,
> bruno
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