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bahman
Hi all,

I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but it
doesn't hurt to ask here:

Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?

TIA,
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Goubier Thierry
Yes, you can use git with Pharo.

You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.

Main repository is there:

https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree

And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under Linux) :

git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
mkdir pharo
cd pharo
wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2
./pharo Pharo.image eval --save "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package: 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author = 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load"
./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess --install=stable
./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url: \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load
./pharo Pharo.image eval --save \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\) repositoryGroup\
    removeRepository: \( \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil withPassword: nil\)\;\
    addRepository: \( \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil withPassword: nil\)    

It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.

My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I used to do before ;)

Thierry

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De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman Movaqar [[hidden email]]
Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
À : [hidden email]
Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git

Hi all,

I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but it
doesn't hurt to ask here:

Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?

TIA,
--
Bahman Movaqar  (http://BahmanM.com)

ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

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Re: Pharo + git

bahman
Thanks for the info.

Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
image?


On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:

> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>
> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>
> Main repository is there:
>
> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>
> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
> Linux) :
>
> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
> mkdir pharo
> cd pharo
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> withPassword: nil\)
>
> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>
> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
> used to do before ;)
>
> Thierry
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
> À : [hidden email]
> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but it
> doesn't hurt to ask here:
>
> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?
--
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ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

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Re: Pharo + git

Goubier Thierry
They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.

You can also use Gofer in the image:

Gofer it
  url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo packages>/';
  package: '<name of package>';
  load

Or on the command line.

Thierry
________________________________________
De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman Movaqar [[hidden email]]
Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
À : Any question about pharo is welcome
Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git

Thanks for the info.

Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
image?


On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:

> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>
> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>
> Main repository is there:
>
> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>
> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
> Linux) :
>
> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
> mkdir pharo
> cd pharo
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> withPassword: nil\)
>
> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>
> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
> used to do before ;)
>
> Thierry
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
> À : [hidden email]
> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but it
> doesn't hurt to ask here:
>
> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?

--
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ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

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Re: Pharo + git

Goubier Thierry
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The mistake in the script is the order of the first three commands. It should be:

mkdir pharo
cd pharo
git clone https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git


Thierry

________________________________________
De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de GOUBIER Thierry
Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:42
À : Any question about pharo is welcome
Objet : [PROVENANCE  INTERNET] Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git

They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.

You can also use Gofer in the image:

Gofer it
  url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo packages>/';
  package: '<name of package>';
  load

Or on the command line.

Thierry
________________________________________
De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman Movaqar [[hidden email]]
Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
À : Any question about pharo is welcome
Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git

Thanks for the info.

Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
image?


On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:

> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>
> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>
> Main repository is there:
>
> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>
> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
> Linux) :
>
> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
> mkdir pharo
> cd pharo
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> withPassword: nil\)
>
> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>
> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
> used to do before ;)
>
> Thierry
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
> À : [hidden email]
> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but it
> doesn't hurt to ask here:
>
> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?

--
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ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)


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bahman
Cool!  Tomorrow, I'll give it a try and let you know.

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ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:46:09 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:

> The mistake in the script is the order of the first three commands. It
> should be:
>
> mkdir pharo
> cd pharo
> git clone https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
> …
>
> Thierry
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de GOUBIER
> Thierry Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:42
> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
> Objet : [PROVENANCE  INTERNET] Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>
> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>
> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>
> Gofer it
>   url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>   load
>
> Or on the command line.
>
> Thierry
> ________________________________________
> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
> image?
>
> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
> > Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
> >
> > You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
> > top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
> >
> > Main repository is there:
> >
> > https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
> >
> > And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
> > Linux) :
> >
> > git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
> > mkdir pharo
> > cd pharo
> > wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
> > ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
> > ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> > "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
> > 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
> > 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
> > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
> > --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
> > \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
> > \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> > \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
> > repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
> > \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> > withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
> > \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> > withPassword: nil\)
> >
> > It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
> >
> > My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
> > commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
> > remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
> > storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
> > used to do before ;)
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
> > Bahman
> > Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
> > À : [hidden email]
> > Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
> > it doesn't hurt to ask here:
> >
> > Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?

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bahman
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Hmm...let's say I have the project initiated on git.  How can I do the initial
commit?  Does it handle package dependencies?

Thanks,
--
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ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)
On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:42:10 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:

> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>
> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>
> Gofer it
>   url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>   load
>
> Or on the command line.
>
> Thierry
> ________________________________________
> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
> image?
>
> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
> > Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
> >
> > You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
> > top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
> >
> > Main repository is there:
> >
> > https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
> >
> > And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
> > Linux) :
> >
> > git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
> > mkdir pharo
> > cd pharo
> > wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
> > ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
> > ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> > "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
> > 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
> > 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
> > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
> > --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
> > \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
> > \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
> > \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
> > repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
> > \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> > withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
> > \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
> > withPassword: nil\)
> >
> > It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
> >
> > My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
> > commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
> > remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
> > storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
> > used to do before ;)
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
> > Bahman
> > Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
> > À : [hidden email]
> > Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
> > it doesn't hurt to ask here:
> >
> > Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?

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Stéphane Ducasse
Hi
I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention because there are really few people working using git and pharo.
I would be you I would concnetrate on the smalltalk part first,

Stef

On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bahman Movaqar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hmm...let's say I have the project initiated on git.  How can I do the initial
> commit?  Does it handle package dependencies?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Bahman Movaqar  (http://BahmanM.com)
>
> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)
> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:42:10 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
>> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
>> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>>
>> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>>
>> Gofer it
>>  url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
>> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>>  load
>>
>> Or on the command line.
>>
>> Thierry
>> ________________________________________
>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
>> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
>> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
>> image?
>>
>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>>>
>>> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
>>> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>>>
>>> Main repository is there:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>>>
>>> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
>>> Linux) :
>>>
>>> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
>>> mkdir pharo
>>> cd pharo
>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
>>> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
>>> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
>>> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
>>> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
>>> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
>>> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
>>> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
>>> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>> withPassword: nil\)
>>>
>>> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>>>
>>> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
>>> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
>>> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
>>> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
>>> used to do before ;)
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
>>> Bahman
>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
>>> À : [hidden email]
>>> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
>>> it doesn't hurt to ask here:
>>>
>>> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?


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Goubier Thierry
Hi Stephane,

but, if you have to introduce Pharo as a business-ready tool in a git
workflow (or any other vcs for that matter), it's better to say that you
can do it, no?

Thierry

Le 19/06/2013 11:13, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :

> Hi
> I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention because there are really few people working using git and pharo.
> I would be you I would concnetrate on the smalltalk part first,
>
> Stef
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bahman Movaqar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hmm...let's say I have the project initiated on git.  How can I do the initial
>> commit?  Does it handle package dependencies?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Bahman Movaqar  (http://BahmanM.com)
>>
>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)
>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:42:10 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
>>> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
>>> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>>>
>>> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>>>
>>> Gofer it
>>>   url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
>>> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>>>   load
>>>
>>> Or on the command line.
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>> ________________________________________
>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
>>> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
>>> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
>>> image?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>>>>
>>>> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
>>>> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>>>>
>>>> Main repository is there:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>>>>
>>>> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
>>>> Linux) :
>>>>
>>>> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
>>>> mkdir pharo
>>>> cd pharo
>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
>>>> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
>>>> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
>>>> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
>>>> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
>>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
>>>> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
>>>> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
>>>> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
>>>> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>> withPassword: nil\)
>>>>
>>>> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>>>>
>>>> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
>>>> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
>>>> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
>>>> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
>>>> used to do before ;)
>>>>
>>>> Thierry
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
>>>> Bahman
>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
>>>> À : [hidden email]
>>>> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
>>>> it doesn't hurt to ask here:
>>>>
>>>> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?
>
>
>

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Re: Pharo + git

Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 19 Jun 2013, at 15:02, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Stephane,
>
> but, if you have to introduce Pharo as a business-ready tool in a git workflow (or any other vcs for that matter), it's better to say that you can do it, no?

The current git workflow is not suitable for first time Pharo users, IMHO.
If we say yes it works to beginners, the next question is, how does it work, what do I do ?
And then it gets too technical too soon, with almost no friendly tool support.
And they will miss all the great Pharo features.
That is why to other way around is better.

Sven

> Thierry
>
> Le 19/06/2013 11:13, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Hi
>> I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention because there are really few people working using git and pharo.
>> I would be you I would concnetrate on the smalltalk part first,
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bahman Movaqar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm...let's say I have the project initiated on git.  How can I do the initial
>>> commit?  Does it handle package dependencies?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Bahman Movaqar  (http://BahmanM.com)
>>>
>>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
>>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)
>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:42:10 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
>>>> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
>>>> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>>>>
>>>> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>>>>
>>>> Gofer it
>>>>  url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
>>>> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>>>>  load
>>>>
>>>> Or on the command line.
>>>>
>>>> Thierry
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
>>>> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
>>>> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>
>>>> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
>>>> image?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>>> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
>>>>> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>>>>>
>>>>> Main repository is there:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>>>>>
>>>>> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
>>>>> Linux) :
>>>>>
>>>>> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
>>>>> mkdir pharo
>>>>> cd pharo
>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
>>>>> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
>>>>> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>>> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
>>>>> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
>>>>> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
>>>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
>>>>> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
>>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
>>>>> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>>> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
>>>>> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
>>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>>> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
>>>>> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>>> withPassword: nil\)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
>>>>> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
>>>>> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
>>>>> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
>>>>> used to do before ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
>>>>> Bahman
>>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
>>>>> À : [hidden email]
>>>>> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
>>>>> it doesn't hurt to ask here:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Thierry Goubier
> CEA list
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> France
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Re: Pharo + git

Goubier Thierry


Le 19/06/2013 15:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :

>
> On 19 Jun 2013, at 15:02, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephane,
>>
>> but, if you have to introduce Pharo as a business-ready tool in a git workflow (or any other vcs for that matter), it's better to say that you can do it, no?
>
> The current git workflow is not suitable for first time Pharo users, IMHO.
> If we say yes it works to beginners, the next question is, how does it work, what do I do ?
> And then it gets too technical too soon, with almost no friendly tool support.
> And they will miss all the great Pharo features.
> That is why to other way around is better.

Well, I'm not sure I'll subscribe to this. If I had followed this
approach, I would not have used Pharo because I would have been told
that it wasn't ready for git.

Luckily for me, Serge Stinckwich stuck his head out and told me that
filetree was usable for that.

First time Pharo users aren't allways dumb beginners; they are often
seasoned veterans in more systems than me, and probably better at
understanding shells scripts than I am :)

Thierry

> Sven
>
>> Thierry
>>
>> Le 19/06/2013 11:13, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>>> Hi
>>> I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention because there are really few people working using git and pharo.
>>> I would be you I would concnetrate on the smalltalk part first,
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bahman Movaqar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm...let's say I have the project initiated on git.  How can I do the initial
>>>> commit?  Does it handle package dependencies?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --
>>>> Bahman Movaqar  (http://BahmanM.com)
>>>>
>>>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
>>>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)
>>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:42:10 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>>> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
>>>>> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
>>>>> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gofer it
>>>>>   url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
>>>>> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>>>>>   load
>>>>>
>>>>> Or on the command line.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thierry
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
>>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
>>>>> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
>>>>> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
>>>>> image?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
>>>>>> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Main repository is there:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
>>>>>> Linux) :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
>>>>>> mkdir pharo
>>>>>> cd pharo
>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
>>>>>> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>>>> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
>>>>>> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
>>>>>> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
>>>>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
>>>>>> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
>>>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
>>>>>> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>>>> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
>>>>>> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
>>>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>>>> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
>>>>>> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>>>> withPassword: nil\)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
>>>>>> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
>>>>>> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
>>>>>> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
>>>>>> used to do before ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
>>>>>> Bahman
>>>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
>>>>>> À : [hidden email]
>>>>>> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
>>>>>> it doesn't hurt to ask here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Thierry Goubier
>> CEA list
>> Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués
>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex
>> France
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>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Pharo + git

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Jun 19, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Stephane,
>
> but, if you have to introduce Pharo as a business-ready tool in a git workflow (or any other vcs for that matter), it's better to say that you can do it, no?

sure
I was just trying to help to avoid to get exposed to too many difficulities at once.

>
> Thierry
>
> Le 19/06/2013 11:13, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Hi
>> I do not know your experience with smalltalk and pharo but pay attention because there are really few people working using git and pharo.
>> I would be you I would concnetrate on the smalltalk part first,
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Bahman Movaqar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm...let's say I have the project initiated on git.  How can I do the initial
>>> commit?  Does it handle package dependencies?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Bahman Movaqar  (http://BahmanM.com)
>>>
>>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant
>>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)
>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:42:10 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>> They will have to clone your git repository, create the image with the
>>>> gifiletree:// support (I think there is a mistake in the script), and add
>>>> the repository as a gitfiletree:// repository to see all your packages.
>>>>
>>>> You can also use Gofer in the image:
>>>>
>>>> Gofer it
>>>>  url: 'gitfiletree://<path to git clone repo>/<subdirectory used for Pharo
>>>> packages>/'; package: '<name of package>';
>>>>  load
>>>>
>>>> Or on the command line.
>>>>
>>>> Thierry
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de Bahman
>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 22:22
>>>> À : Any question about pharo is welcome
>>>> Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>
>>>> Now suppose I shared my code on git.  How can others use it on their own
>>>> image?
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 20:14:21 GOUBIER Thierry wrote:
>>>>> Yes, you can use git with Pharo.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to get an extension called MonticelloFileTree, and you can add on
>>>>> top of it a MonticelloFileTree-Git which really integrates into git.
>>>>>
>>>>> Main repository is there:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree
>>>>>
>>>>> And temporary instruction to try the latest gitfiletree:// stuff is (under
>>>>> Linux) :
>>>>>
>>>>> git clone git://github.com/ThierryGoubier/filetree.git
>>>>> mkdir pharo
>>>>> cd pharo
>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash
>>>>> ./pharo Pharo.image config http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree
>>>>> ConfigurationOfFileTree --install=1.0.2 ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>>> "Gofer  new url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree'; package:
>>>>> 'MonticelloFileTree-Core' constraint: [ :version | version author =
>>>>> 'ThierryGoubier' ]; load" ./pharo Pharo.image config
>>>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 ConfigurationOfOSProcess
>>>>> --install=stable ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save Gofer new url:
>>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/../filetree/repository/\'\; package:
>>>>> \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\; load ./pharo Pharo.image eval --save
>>>>> \(MCWorkingCopy hasPackageNamed: \'MonticelloFileTree-Git\'\)
>>>>> repositoryGroup\ removeRepository: \(
>>>>> \'filetree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>>> withPassword: nil\)\;\ addRepository: \(
>>>>> \'gitfiletree://`pwd`/filetree/repository/\' asUrl mcRepositoryAsUser: nil
>>>>> withPassword: nil\)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's really to get the latest :) It will be simpler in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> My workflow, for a git repo and pharo, is to have a Makefile with those
>>>>> commands, a gitignore for the pharo subdirectory, and a make clean to
>>>>> remove the pharo directory and download a fresh vm and image. It avoids
>>>>> storing the pharo image and package cache inside the git repository, as I
>>>>> used to do before ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thierry
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> De : Pharo-users [[hidden email]] de la part de
>>>>> Bahman
>>>>> Movaqar [[hidden email]] Date d'envoi : mardi 18 juin 2013 21:38
>>>>> À : [hidden email]
>>>>> Objet : [Pharo-users] Pharo + git
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've searched the net and found out the answer is most probably "no"; but
>>>>> it doesn't hurt to ask here:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it posssible to use `git' as the VCS backend for Pharo?
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Thierry Goubier
> CEA list
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