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2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>:
> > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Hernán Morales Durand > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm in >> >> CMU Mach Operating System ;) >> >> nah, Windows XP (but I swear I've installed the Mach when I was 20, a >> true nightmare), 32-bit, PharoCore. >> > > > You said PharoCore but we aware that this "beta tester" list is for dev and > web packages. Ok, I'm out then :) Cheers, Hernán _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Mariano,
I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right button gives me : MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation systems yet :) Cheers, Hernán 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us if > you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside > installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it would > be cool to have both testers :) > > If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't have > access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here and > then I put it in the wiki. > > Cheers! > > Mariano > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >> >> Feel free to add something else. >> >> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in holidays, I >> don't know. >> >> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new image to >> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to each of >> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list and not >> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having them in >> cc is a good idea. >> >> Cheers, >> >> M >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cobá <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> >>> > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to know: >>> > OS, >>> > VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>> > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>> > >>> > - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, 32 >>> > bits >>> > - Stan Shepherd >>> > >>> > >>> > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>> >>> Me too. >>> >>> - Miguel Cobá, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 May >>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>> >>> >>> > >>> > cheers and happy new year!! >>> > >>> >>> Feliz año también Mariano. >>> >>> Miguel Cobá >>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi,
Me too: Laurent Laffont: ArchLinux, 32 bits, web image, squeakvm 3.11-3, OB and O2 class browser Laurent 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> Ok.....I collect all the information here:Feel free to add something else. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Mariano,
A list for beta-testers would be very helpful too (at least has a way to get informed about new releases) Cheers, Esteban On 2010-01-01 18:56:45 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> said: > > > Ok.....I collect all the information here: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters > > Feel free to add something else. > > The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in holidays, I > don't know. > > The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new image to > test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to each of > us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list and not > all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having them i= > n > cc is a good idea. > > Cheers, > > M > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cob=E1 > <[hidden email]> wrot= > e: > >>> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to know: >> OS, >>> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>> >>> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, 32 >> bits >>> - Stan Shepherd >>> >>> >>> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >> >> Me too. >> >> - Miguel Cob=E1, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 May >> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >> >> >>> >>> cheers and happy new year!! >>> >> >> Feliz a=F1o tambi=E9n Mariano. >> >> Miguel Cob=E1 >> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > Ok.....I collect all the information here:<br><br><a href=3D"http://code.go= > ogle.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters">http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wik= > i/ListOfBetaTesters</a><br><br>Feel free to add something else.<br><br>The = > only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in holidays, I = > don't know.<br> > <br>The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new image= > to test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to eac= > h of us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list an= > d not all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having = > them in cc is a good idea.<br> > <br>Cheers,<br><br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 = > at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cob=E1 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:miguel.c= > [hidden email]">[hidden email]</a>></span> > wrote:<br><blockquote c= > lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); ma= > rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > <div class=3D"im">> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it wou= > ld be cool to know: OS,<br> > > VM version, Dev or Web,=A0 browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits,<br> > > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki.<br> > ><br> > > - Mariano Martinez Peck.=A0 Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app,=A0 Dev, OB= > , 32 bits<br> > > - Stan Shepherd<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ??<br> > <br> > </div>Me too.<br> > <br> > - Miguel Cob=E1, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 May<br> > 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits<br> > <div class=3D"im"><br> > <br> > ><br> > > cheers and happy new year!!<br> > ><br> > <br> > </div>Feliz a=F1o tambi=E9n Mariano.<br> > <font color=3D"#888888"><br> > Miguel Cob=E1<br> > <a href=3D"http://miguel.leugim.com.mx" target=3D"_blank">http://miguel.leu= > gim.com.mx</a><br> > </font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Pharo-project mailing list<br> > <a > href=3D"mailto:[hidden email]">Pharo-project@lists.= <a > > href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-proj= > ect" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf= > o/pharo-project</a><br> > </div></div></blockquote></div><br> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Mariano, but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web Hernán: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta testers. Cheers Mariano Cheers, _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :)
I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image :) Cheers Mariano On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Mariano,
I noted your(??) comment about how some people will have significant work to build a new image. I somewhat fall into that category, and *really* fell into it as soon as I ported a few of my big packages to Pharo. Three things that I found missing were: (1) a way to identify work that I had failed to package; (2) a clean way to save large numbers of packages in one step; (3) a clean way to load a lot of code into a new image. By no means complete or perfect, I ended up with a "port" of a Dolphin goodie of mine I call Migrate. The intent is that users would sub-class it it to describe their packages. The recent move toward Gofer will probably have some impact on it, and a larger problem is that I need to clean up comments that contain things I do not want to make public. I mentioned this a while back and the response was underwhelming, but it is probably worth another mention, especially since there does not appear to be a magic solution to the problem. If there were, you would advising testers about how easy it will be for them to make a new image, right? :) The basic idea of Migrate is to iteratively extend your own #homeGrownPackageNames list until the suspect methods report is clean, or least understandable and ignorable. At that point, it is (in my experience) easy to save packages and make them available for a new image. Load Migrate and your subclass into the new image, and ask it to load packages. I would be happy to clean it up and make it available if there is any interest. A relevant class comment appears below. Bill CONFIGURE ========= Configure it using #homeGrownPackageNames and #me to tell it which packages are intended to hold your work, and how to identify you from the (misnomer!!!) #timeStamp aspects of the compiled methods you produce. SAVE YOUR WORK ============== Use #suspectMethodsReport to produce a listing of class>>selector names that might be in danger of being orphaned in your current image. Use #homeGrownPackgesSaveWithMessage: to save all of the identified home grown packages in the next version and with the common text message. BUILD A NEW IMAGE ================= Load Migrate into a new image. It wants underscore_madness.cs, and loads SIXX and other packages of interest to me; you can edit as needed to remove what you do not want to load. Put your packages in the cache directory for the new image. Yes, it is fussy about these things, but the idea is to find errors early rather than being stopped after a long wait. Likewise, if you do not like what #setPreferences does, edit it. ________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck [[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:39 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image :) Cheers Mariano On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: Hi Mariano, I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right button gives me : MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation systems yet :) Hernán: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta testers. Cheers Mariano Cheers, Hernán 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>>: > Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us if > you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside > installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it would > be cool to have both testers :) > > If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't have > access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here and > then I put it in the wiki. > > Cheers! > > Mariano > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >> >> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >> >> Feel free to add something else. >> >> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in holidays, I >> don't know. >> >> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new image to >> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to each of >> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list and not >> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having them in >> cc is a good idea. >> >> Cheers, >> >> M >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cobá <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> >> wrote: >>> >>> > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to know: >>> > OS, >>> > VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>> > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>> > >>> > - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, 32 >>> > bits >>> > - Stan Shepherd >>> > >>> > >>> > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>> >>> Me too. >>> >>> - Miguel Cobá, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 May >>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>> >>> >>> > >>> > cheers and happy new year!! >>> > >>> >>> Feliz año también Mariano. >>> >>> Miguel Cobá >>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough ?
I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 and metacello configurations :) Cheers On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Maybe just a keyword such as [BetaTesting] is enough.
Alexandre On 7 Jan 2010, at 18:02, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is > enough ? > > I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let > me know what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev > image based in 10505 and metacello configurations :) > > Cheers > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email] > > wrote: > Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) > > I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list > > And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of > image :) > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email] > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email] > > wrote: > Hi Mariano, > I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, > for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image > #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right > button gives me : > > MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode > > > Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 > > but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web > images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk > and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey > system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, > fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation > systems yet :) > > > Hernán: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in > the email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." > > And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta > testers. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > Cheers, > > Hernán > > 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > > Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you > tell us if > > you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside > > installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. > So...it would > > be cool to have both testers :) > > > > If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you > don't have > > access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it > here and > > then I put it in the wiki. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Mariano > > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >> Ok.....I collect all the information here: > >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters > >> > >> Feel free to add something else. > >> > >> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in > holidays, I > >> don't know. > >> > >> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new > image to > >> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc > to each of > >> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing > list and not > >> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think > having them in > >> cc is a good idea. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> M > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cobá > <[hidden email]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool > to know: > >>> > OS, > >>> > VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, > >>> > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. > >>> > > >>> > - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, > Dev, OB, 32 > >>> > bits > >>> > - Stan Shepherd > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? > >>> > >>> Me too. > >>> > >>> - Miguel Cobá, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of > 16 May > >>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > cheers and happy new year!! > >>> > > >>> > >>> Feliz año también Mariano. > >>> > >>> Miguel Cobá > >>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > project > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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A mailing for me please... Besides, that way we wouldn't have to deal with the "everybody jumps in the conversation" if the list is private to testers only... Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) From: Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 4:02:30 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough ? I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 and metacello configurations :) Cheers On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address now! _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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one of the goals is for Pharo communication to be open so I would say
-1 on a private list. +1 on some tag convention Mike 2010/1/7 Benoit St-Jean <[hidden email]>: > A mailing for me please... Besides, that way we wouldn't have to deal with > the "everybody jumps in the conversation" if the list is private to testers > only... > > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com > A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. > (Albert Einstein) > > ________________________________ > From: Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 4:02:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! > > Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough > ? > > I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know > what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 > and metacello configurations :) > > Cheers > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) >> >> I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list >> >> And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image >> :) >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Hernán Morales Durand >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mariano, >>>> I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, >>>> for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image >>>> #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right >>>> button gives me : >>>> >>>> MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode >>>> >>> >>> Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 >>> >>>> >>>> but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web >>>> images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk >>>> and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey >>>> system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, >>>> fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation >>>> systems yet :) >>> >>> >>> Hernán: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the >>> email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." >>> >>> And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta >>> testers. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Hernán >>>> >>>> 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>>> > Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us >>>> > if >>>> > you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside >>>> > installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it >>>> > would >>>> > be cool to have both testers :) >>>> > >>>> > If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't >>>> > have >>>> > access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here >>>> > and >>>> > then I put it in the wiki. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers! >>>> > >>>> > Mariano >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> > <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >>>> >> >>>> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >>>> >> >>>> >> Feel free to add something else. >>>> >> >>>> >> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in >>>> >> holidays, I >>>> >> don't know. >>>> >> >>>> >> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new >>>> >> image to >>>> >> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to >>>> >> each of >>>> >> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list >>>> >> and not >>>> >> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having >>>> >> them in >>>> >> cc is a good idea. >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> >>>> >> M >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cobá <[hidden email]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to >>>> >>> > know: >>>> >>> > OS, >>>> >>> > VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>>> >>> > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, >>>> >>> > OB, 32 >>>> >>> > bits >>>> >>> > - Stan Shepherd >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Me too. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> - Miguel Cobá, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 >>>> >>> May >>>> >>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > cheers and happy new year!! >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Feliz año también Mariano. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Miguel Cobá >>>> >>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> >>> [hidden email] >>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>>> > [hidden email] >>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > ________________________________ > Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address > now! > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!
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On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > one of the goals is for Pharo communication to be open so I would say > -1 on a private list. +1 on some tag convention > > Mike > > 2010/1/7 Benoit St-Jean <[hidden email]>: >> A mailing for me please... Besides, that way we wouldn't have to deal with >> the "everybody jumps in the conversation" if the list is private to testers >> only... >> >> ----------------- >> Benoit St-Jean >> Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean >> Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com >> A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. >> (Albert Einstein) >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> >> To: [hidden email] >> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 4:02:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! >> >> Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough >> ? >> >> I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know >> what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 >> and metacello configurations :) >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) >>> >>> I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list >>> >>> And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image >>> :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Hernán Morales Durand >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mariano, >>>>> I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, >>>>> for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image >>>>> #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right >>>>> button gives me : >>>>> >>>>> MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 >>>> >>>>> >>>>> but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web >>>>> images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk >>>>> and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey >>>>> system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, >>>>> fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation >>>>> systems yet :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Hernán: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the >>>> email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." >>>> >>>> And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta >>>> testers. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Hernán >>>>> >>>>> 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us >>>>>> if >>>>>> you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside >>>>>> installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it >>>>>> would >>>>>> be cool to have both testers :) >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't >>>>>> have >>>>>> access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here >>>>>> and >>>>>> then I put it in the wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to add something else. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in >>>>>>> holidays, I >>>>>>> don't know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new >>>>>>> image to >>>>>>> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to >>>>>>> each of >>>>>>> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list >>>>>>> and not >>>>>>> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having >>>>>>> them in >>>>>>> cc is a good idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel Cobá <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to >>>>>>>>> know: >>>>>>>>> OS, >>>>>>>>> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>>>>>>>> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, >>>>>>>>> OB, 32 >>>>>>>>> bits >>>>>>>>> - Stan Shepherd >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Me too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Miguel Cobá, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 >>>>>>>> May >>>>>>>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers and happy new year!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feliz año también Mariano. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Miguel Cobá >>>>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address >> now! >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!
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Ok...I will put a prefix in the subject called "[BetaTesting]". If you use a descent email client you will b able to create a filter with that.
So, if I send an email to Pharo mailing list and that label, is enough ? On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: +1 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!
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In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck
El jue, 07-01-2010 a las 22:02 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribió:
> Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is > enough ? -1 to a new list. A mail to the list with the tag proposed is enough. Thanks, by the way for the effort. -- Miguel Cobá http://miguel.leugim.com.mx _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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