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jfabry

Pharo users count / estimate ?

Hi all,

for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be shared ?

TIA
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abergel

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

I think we have many reliable numbers for the Pharo MOOC.

Alexandre

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be shared ?
>
> TIA
> --
> Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>
> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
>
>

stepharo

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

In reply to this post by jfabry

Difficult to say

We got 100 committers for Pharo 50

We got 3411 registrered participants to the mooc (whatever it means).

Le 14/9/16 à 17:15, Johan Fabry a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be shared ?
>
> TIA
> --
> Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>
> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
>
>
>

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

I think that a better metric to complement those ones, would be the
people who ended the MOOC.

Cheers,

Offray

On 14/09/16 21:15, stepharo wrote:

> Difficult to say
>
> We got 100 committers for Pharo 50
>
> We got 3411 registrered participants to the mooc (whatever it means).
>
>
> Le 14/9/16 à 17:15, Johan Fabry a écrit :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an
>> estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find
>> number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for
>> estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team
>> have any usable statistics that can be shared ?
>>
>> TIA
>> --
>> Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be
>> rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>>
>> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
>> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) -
>> University of Chile
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

In reply to this post by jfabry

Getting HTTP logs from SmalltalkHub should give us some hints on the
most requested projects.
The same goes for the get.pharo.org files.
Esteban A. Maringolo

2016-09-14 12:15 GMT-03:00 Johan Fabry <[hidden email]>:

kilon.alios

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

I count as 12 , just saying

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:25 PM Esteban A. Maringolo <[hidden email]> wrote:

Getting HTTP logs from SmalltalkHub should give us some hints on the
most requested projects.
The same goes for the get.pharo.org files.
Esteban A. Maringolo

2016-09-14 12:15 GMT-03:00 Johan Fabry <[hidden email]>:
> Hi all,
>
> for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be shared ?
>
> TIA
> --
> Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>
> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
>
>

Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

There are "smart" enough log analyzers to separate unique visitors, by
IP, UA, etc.

Because otherwise INRIA's CI would count as 300 hits ;-)

Esteban A. Maringolo

2016-09-14 16:26 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:

> I count as 12 , just saying
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:25 PM Esteban A. Maringolo <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Getting HTTP logs from SmalltalkHub should give us some hints on the
>> most requested projects.
>> The same goes for the get.pharo.org files.
>> Esteban A. Maringolo
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-14 12:15 GMT-03:00 Johan Fabry <[hidden email]>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate
>> > of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads
>> > of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find
>> > this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be
>> > shared ?
>> >
>> > TIA
>> > --
>> > Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude!
>> > Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>> >
>> > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
>> > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) -
>> > University of Chile
>> >
>> >
>>
>

abergel

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

In reply to this post by jfabry

From http://smalltalkhub.com

3463 repositories, 2704 users registered and 245751 packages uploaded.

Alexandre

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kilon.alios

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

On GitHub a search for Pharo returns 497 repos

https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=pharo&type=Repositories&ref=searchresults

and around 850 for Smalltalk

in comparison Javascript returns around 176k repos, which means with this result Javascript only has 352 times more repos than pharo. While Python returns 300k repos.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:49 PM Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

From http://smalltalkhub.com

3463 repositories, 2704 users registered and 245751 packages uploaded.

Alexandre

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be shared ?
>
> TIA
> --
> Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>
> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
>
>

--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

The SmalltalkHub packages/repositories count is close to useless. You
can't even tell which ones are the most used.

Once everything is moved to other SCM like GitHub/GitLab they will
provide the stats for us.
Another story is package artifact management (ala npm), that will the
¿upcoming? Cargo package manager.

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo

2016-09-14 17:19 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:

> On GitHub a search for Pharo returns 497 repos
>
> https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=pharo&type=Repositories&ref=searchresults
>
> and around 850 for Smalltalk
>
> in comparison Javascript returns around 176k repos, which means with this
> result Javascript only has 352 times more repos than pharo. While Python
> returns 300k repos.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:49 PM Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>
>> From http://smalltalkhub.com
>>
>> 3463 repositories, 2704 users registered and 245751 packages uploaded.
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>> > On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate
>> > of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads
>> > of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find
>> > this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be
>> > shared ?
>> >
>> > TIA
>> > --
>> > Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude!
>> > Please see http://emailcharter.org .
>> >
>> > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry
>> > PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) -
>> > University of Chile
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Marcus Denker-4

Re: Pharo users count / estimate ?

In reply to this post by jfabry

> On 14 Sep 2016, at 17:15, Johan Fabry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> for some silly report that I need to write I wanted to add an estimate of how many people worldwide use Pharo. I tried to find number of downloads of e.g. Pharo 5 to use that as a basis for estimation but I could not find this info online. Does the Pharo team have any usable statistics that can be shared ?
>

We have no information.

Marcus