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Leo Perard
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Tudor Girba-2
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Tudor Girba-2
Hi,

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?

I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

Cheers,
Doru




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Leo Perard
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?
It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).
In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.
But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

Cheers,
Doru




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Tudor Girba-2
Hi,


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?
It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).
In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.
 
I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.
But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

Doru
 
I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

Cheers,
Doru




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Leo Perard
Alt+x is not working in the Playground.
The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you.


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?
It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).
In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.
 
I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.
But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

Doru
 
I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

Cheers,
Doru




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Tudor Girba-2
Thanks. It should work now.

Cheers,
Doru


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Alt+x is not working in the Playground.
The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you.


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?
It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).
In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.
 
I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.
But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

Doru
 
I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

Cheers,
Doru




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Leo Perard
Yes it is ok thanks.


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks. It should work now.

Cheers,
Doru


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Alt+x is not working in the Playground.
The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you.


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?
It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).
In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.
 
I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.
But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

Doru
 
I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

Cheers,
Doru




On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

Doru


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.
I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

The list of those that do not work:
Alt+a
Alt+i
Alt+d
Alt+c
Alt+x
Alt+v

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

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Hello,

 

Thanks Doru ! That’s nice that is now CTRL as shortcut modifier and I know that was not an easy task !

 

But there is still some bugs :(

CTRL +M doesn’t work but ALT + M do

And the double click doesn’t select the word :(

 

Thanks for solving :)

 

Cheers,

 

Vincent

 

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Yes it is ok thanks.

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks. It should work now.

 

Cheers,

Doru

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Alt+x is not working in the Playground.

The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you.

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

 

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?

It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).

In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.

 

I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

 

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.

But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

 

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

 

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

 

Doru

 

I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

 

Cheers,

Doru

 

 

 

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

 

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

 

Doru

 

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all,

 

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.

I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

 

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

 

The list of those that do not work:

Alt+a

Alt+i

Alt+d

Alt+c

Alt+x

Alt+v

 

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

 

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

 

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

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Hi Vincent,



On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Blondeau Vincent <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

 

Thanks Doru ! That’s nice that is now CTRL as shortcut modifier and I know that was not an easy task !

 

But there is still some bugs :(

CTRL +M doesn’t work but ALT + M do


Ctrl+m does not work on Windows at all (you can try in Nautilus, too). I do not know where the issue comes from, and in fact this was the main reason why we decided to support Alt bindings :). I am still looking for the problem and let you know if this will work.
 

And the double click doesn’t select the word :(


This one I do not quite get. Stef seemed to have had the same issue, but I cannot reproduce it either on Mac or on Windows. On both platforms real double clicking should select (word, paragraph, comment  etc).

Indeed, what does not work is click-longerpause-click. This works in the PluggableTextMorph, but not in Rubric.

Could we spend a bit of time tracking this down? What exactly do you do?

Cheers,
Doru
 

Thanks for solving :)

 

Cheers,

 

Vincent

 

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Yes it is ok thanks.

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks. It should work now.

 

Cheers,

Doru

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Alt+x is not working in the Playground.

The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you.

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

 

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?

It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).

In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.

 

I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

 

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.

But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

 

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

 

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

 

Doru

 

I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

 

Cheers,

Doru

 

 

 

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

 

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

 

Doru

 

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Hi all,

 

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.

I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

 

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

 

The list of those that do not work:

Alt+a

Alt+i

Alt+d

Alt+c

Alt+x

Alt+v

 

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

 

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

 

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

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Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
(Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
(browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
entity removeLast.
announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger doesn't work
(shows only one pane)


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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Andrei Chis
Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the latest moose image. This also breaks the debugger. 
To debug you can switch to the default debugger (SpecDebugger registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:
Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
(Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
(browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
entity removeLast.
announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger doesn't work
(shows only one pane)


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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Andrei Chis
Pharo3.0-30851 breaks the selection in glamour. I guess it's the fix for issue 13422


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrei Chis <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the latest moose image. This also breaks the debugger. 
To debug you can switch to the default debugger (SpecDebugger registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:
Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
(Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
(browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
entity removeLast.
announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger doesn't work
(shows only one pane)


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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

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It’s is not. I have an image that have the double click bug and the test that passes… (under  W7).

 

 

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Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2014 14:46
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Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts

 

Could it be related to the failing test in CI?

(Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

 

GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection

            (browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
            entity removeLast.
            announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
            self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
            self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

 

When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there

is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger doesn't work

(shows only one pane)

 




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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

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De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] De la part de Tudor Girba
Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2014 13:05
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Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts

 

Hi Vincent,

 

 

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Blondeau Vincent <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

 

Thanks Doru ! That’s nice that is now CTRL as shortcut modifier and I know that was not an easy task !

 

But there is still some bugs :(

CTRL +M doesn’t work but ALT + M do

 

Ctrl+m does not work on Windows at all (you can try in Nautilus, too). I do not know where the issue comes from, and in fact this was the main reason why we decided to support Alt bindings :). I am still looking for the problem and let you know if this will work.

 

Ok. Because for now even ALT+M doesn’t work…

 

And the double click doesn’t select the word :(

 

This one I do not quite get. Stef seemed to have had the same issue, but I cannot reproduce it either on Mac or on Windows. On both platforms real double clicking should select (word, paragraph, comment  etc).

 

Indeed, what does not work is click-longerpause-click. This works in the PluggableTextMorph, but not in Rubric.

 

Could we spend a bit of time tracking this down? What exactly do you do?

Yes I can :)

 

I write sth in the workspace or in the inspector

OrderedCollection new

 

And when I double click (click-click ) nothing happens.

I am under W7.

 

Cheers,

Vincent

Cheers,

Doru

 

Thanks for solving :)

 

Cheers,

 

Vincent

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 2 juillet 2014 15:24
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Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts

 

Yes it is ok thanks.

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks. It should work now.

 

Cheers,

Doru

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Alt+x is not working in the Playground.

The others looks ok. If I find any not working I will tell you.

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

The Playground and Inspector are using Rubric. And, I am moving all keymappings to use the default Ctrl modifier. It works on Windows (I only still have a problem with Ctrl+m which does not seem to work).

 

On Linux, it should work, too. Could you please test again and let me know if you can use Ctrl as a modifier?

It seems like all the shortcuts are working with Ctrl. (even Ctrl+m).

In the playground I can't use the Alt modifier but I can everywhere else, and I think this is weird. 

 

Yes, it is weird that Alt works at all in the other tools. In any case, please update again Rubric, and you will see that now both are working.

 

I know that in the PluggableTextMorph (the default widget used within the default Pharo environment) some commands use Alt and others use Ctrl, but I think the only meaningful way is to support Ctrl because this is what a user of that operating system supposes.

 

Can't we have the both or a choice. I have to admit, I use the shortcut Alt and I think it is better than Ctrl because Alt is usually just near the space bar which is closer than the Ctrl one.

But this is just my point of view so I don't know.

 

In all other editing tools on Linux and Windows, Ctrl is the preferred modifier (for example, Ctrl+c). So, the most natural integration is to support those shortcuts and not others. But, as I said, at least for now, we support both variations.

 

Could you please test again and let me know if you see anything not working?

 

Doru

 

I will still try to get support for Alt as well, but it needs some iterations.

 

Cheers,

Doru

 

 

 

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Please open a bug for that. I am right now working on this issue and it would be good to track it.

 

The keybindings in Pharo are really messy :(

 

Doru

 

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leo Perard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all,

 

the usual shortcuts with Linux (Alt+d for example) are not working with the Playground.

I have to use the Ctrl+ shortcut to use it. I replace the playground by the workspace and it works with it so I guess the bug is in the playground.

 

But not all of the shortcuts are not working, for example Alt+o is working.

 

The list of those that do not work:

Alt+a

Alt+i

Alt+d

Alt+c

Alt+x

Alt+v

 

maybe others but I didn't check them all.

 

I'm on ubuntu 13.10 64bits.

 

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Tudor Girba-2
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Ugh. This is ugly!

Any idea of how to fix the problem?

Doru


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Andrei Chis <[hidden email]> wrote:
Pharo3.0-30851 breaks the selection in glamour. I guess it's the fix for issue 13422


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrei Chis <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the latest moose image. This also breaks the debugger. 
To debug you can switch to the default debugger (SpecDebugger registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:
Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
(Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
(browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
entity removeLast.
announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger doesn't work
(shows only one pane)


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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Goubier Thierry
Hi Doru,

I think there is no relation to 13422. It's easy to check: the 13422 fix
is a one liner; just revert
MorphTreeMorph>>updateContentsWithPreviouslyExpanded: to Alain Plantec's
version.

Thierry

Le 03/07/2014 15:58, Tudor Girba a écrit :

> Ugh. This is ugly!
>
> Any idea of how to fix the problem?
>
> Doru
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Andrei Chis <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Pharo3.0-30851 breaks the selection in glamour. I guess it's the fix
>     for issue 13422
>
>
>     On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrei Chis
>     <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>         Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the latest moose
>         image. This also breaks the debugger.
>         To debug you can switch to the default debugger (SpecDebugger
>         registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).
>
>
>         On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont
>         <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>             Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
>             (Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)
>
>             GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
>             (browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
>             entity removeLast.
>             announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
>             self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
>             self assert: listMorph model selection isNil
>
>             When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
>             is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger
>             doesn't work
>             (shows only one pane)
>
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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Tudor Girba-2
Yes, I saw that. My question was if we have an idea of how to set the selection now :)

Doru


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Doru,

I think there is no relation to 13422. It's easy to check: the 13422 fix is a one liner; just revert MorphTreeMorph>>updateContentsWithPreviouslyExpanded: to Alain Plantec's version.

Thierry

Le 03/07/2014 15:58, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Ugh. This is ugly!

Any idea of how to fix the problem?

Doru


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Andrei Chis <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

    Pharo3.0-30851 breaks the selection in glamour. I guess it's the fix
    for issue 13422


    On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrei Chis
    <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

        Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the latest moose
        image. This also breaks the debugger.
        To debug you can switch to the default debugger (SpecDebugger
        registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).


        On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont
        <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

            Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
            (Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

            GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
            (browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
            entity removeLast.
            announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
            self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
            self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

            When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
            is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger
            doesn't work
            (shows only one pane)


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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

Blondeau Vincent

I don’t know why but now the double click selection works … !?

But the debugger is broken… :(

 

De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] De la part de Tudor Girba
Envoyé : jeudi 3 juillet 2014 16:12
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Objet : [Moose-dev] Re: Playground and Shortcuts

 

Yes, I saw that. My question was if we have an idea of how to set the selection now :)

 

Doru

 

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Doru,

I think there is no relation to 13422. It's easy to check: the 13422 fix is a one liner; just revert MorphTreeMorph>>updateContentsWithPreviouslyExpanded: to Alain Plantec's version.

Thierry

Le 03/07/2014 15:58, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Ugh. This is ugly!

Any idea of how to fix the problem?

Doru


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Andrei Chis <[hidden email]

<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

    Pharo3.0-30851 breaks the selection in glamour. I guess it's the fix
    for issue 13422


    On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrei Chis

    <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

        Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the latest moose
        image. This also breaks the debugger.
        To debug you can switch to the default debugger (SpecDebugger
        registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).


        On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont

        <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

            Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
            (Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)

            GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>testInvalidateSelection
            (browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
            entity removeLast.
            announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
            self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection) value isNil.
            self assert: listMorph model selection isNil

            When I run the glamour tests from the test runner, there
            is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger
            doesn't work
            (shows only one pane)

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Re: Playground and Shortcuts

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Le 03/07/2014 16:12, Tudor Girba a écrit :
> Yes, I saw that. My question was if we have an idea of how to set the
> selection now :)

But that code doesn't change the way the selection works [or that it
wasn't working well to start with :(].

The selection has to be recreated since when the displayed list is
updated, the selected morphs are destroyed. You do something along the
lines of "updateSelectionFromModel", don't you?

Thierry

> Doru
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Goubier Thierry <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Doru,
>
>     I think there is no relation to 13422. It's easy to check: the 13422
>     fix is a one liner; just revert
>     MorphTreeMorph>>__updateContentsWithPreviouslyEx__panded: to Alain
>     Plantec's version.
>
>     Thierry
>
>     Le 03/07/2014 15:58, Tudor Girba a écrit :
>
>         Ugh. This is ugly!
>
>         Any idea of how to fix the problem?
>
>         Doru
>
>
>         On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Andrei Chis
>         <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>         <mailto:[hidden email]
>         <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
>
>              Pharo3.0-30851 breaks the selection in glamour. I guess
>         it's the fix
>              for issue 13422
>
>
>              On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Andrei Chis
>              <[hidden email]
>         <mailto:[hidden email]>
>         <mailto:[hidden email]
>         <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
>
>                  Yes, something seems to be broken in Glamour in the
>         latest moose
>                  image. This also breaks the debugger.
>                  To debug you can switch to the default debugger
>         (SpecDebugger
>                  registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools).
>
>
>                  On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Stephan Eggermont
>                  <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>         <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
>
>                      Could it be related to the failing test in CI?
>                      (Mac Mavericks 10.9.2)
>
>                      GLMUpdateMorphicTest>>__testInvalidateSelection
>                      (browser panes first port: #selection) value: 3.
>                      entity removeLast.
>                      announcer announce: GLMTestAnnouncement.
>                      self assert: (browser panes first port: #selection)
>         value isNil.
>                      self assert: listMorph model selection isNil
>
>                      When I run the glamour tests from the test runner,
>         there
>                      is one TestFailure. If I try to debug it, the debugger
>                      doesn't work
>                      (shows only one pane)
>
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