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Please: less license blahblah, more actual progress on the issue

Paolo Bonzini-2
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 18:53, stephane ducasse
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> Thanks thanks thanks thanks for a refresh on that!
> Thanks!

Stef, instead of thanking five times, why don't you try to do
something constructive?

The GPLv3 includes a system of granting Additional Permissions.  This
system has already been used by GCC and Autoconf.  Let's develop a set
of additional permissions that we believe do not "taint" the whole
image.  I placed a starting point at
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/towards-permissive-copyleft-license-dynamic-languages

[To those that followed the entire thread: this is totally independent
of how any GSoC code related to GNU Smalltalk will be licensed].

Paolo

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Re: Please: less license blahblah, more actual progress on the issue

Schwab,Wilhelm K
Paolo,

Perhaps I'm getting this out of context, but you have done something *very* difficult to do: you've offended me (on Stef's behalf).  Asking Stef to "do something constructive" is like asking asking a shark to swim.

As for GPL in any variant, I have never trusted it, and see no justifiable advantage over something like MIT or BSD.  Your (apparent) reaction to Stef is only deepening my preference for simplicity of licensing.

Bill



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Subject: [Pharo-project] Please: less license blahblah, more actual progress on the issue

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 18:53, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks thanks thanks thanks for a refresh on that!
> Thanks!

Stef, instead of thanking five times, why don't you try to do something constructive?

The GPLv3 includes a system of granting Additional Permissions.  This system has already been used by GCC and Autoconf.  Let's develop a set of additional permissions that we believe do not "taint" the whole image.  I placed a starting point at http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/towards-permissive-copyleft-license-dynamic-languages

[To those that followed the entire thread: this is totally independent of how any GSoC code related to GNU Smalltalk will be licensed].

Paolo

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Paolo Bonzini-2
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>> Stef, instead of thanking five times, why don't you try to do
>> something constructive?
>
> do you think that pharo is not constructive enough :)

fair enough. :-)

> Paolo what I learned is that I want to be as far as possible from license problems.
> I know this is naive but I hate licenses! They fucked up our lives.

Possibly.  But fanaticism has its share of guilt too.  I have my
opinion on what's worse.

Paolo

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