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EstebanLM

Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)

Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!

Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Nicolai Hess-3-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

2016-11-09 12:00 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)
Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!
Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Hm, building third party libs with cygwin ? Does that means all windows user will have to use a cygwin runtime to use pharo ?

EstebanLM

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

On 9 Nov 2016, at 12:26, Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]> wrote:

2016-11-09 12:00 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)
Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!
Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Hm, building third party libs with cygwin ? Does that means all windows user will have to use a cygwin runtime to use pharo ?

No. You can build regular DLLs using cygwin. As we did with MSYS (in fact, Pharo.exe too is built with cygwin).

Esteban

Thierry Goubier

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

The 64bits VM has no crash; sometimes I see some temporary freeze (unlocked with Ctrl+., but nothing "locking" is found when the debugger appear).

Thierry

2016-11-09 12:00 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)
Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!
Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Henrik Nergaard-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

Got it running on Windows using “Ubuntu on Windows” and Xming server.

There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;)

Best regards,

Henrik

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM
To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)

Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!

Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

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kilon.alios

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image

I am talking about this one

pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:29 PM Henrik Nergaard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Got it running on Windows using “Ubuntu on Windows” and Xming server.

There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;)

Best regards,

Henrik

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM
To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)

Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!

Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

kilon.alios

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

why not use Visual Studio ?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:01 PM Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)
Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!
Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Thierry Goubier

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by Henrik Nergaard-2

2016-11-09 13:28 GMT+01:00 Henrik Nergaard <[hidden email]>:

Got it running on Windows using “Ubuntu on Windows” and Xming server.

There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;)

You've used the linux 64bits vm?

Thierry

Best regards,

Henrik

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM
To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)

Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!

Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

CyrilFerlicot

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by kilon.alios

On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image
>
> I am talking about this one
>
> pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
> <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>
>
>

Are your images 64bits images?

--
Cyril Ferlicot

http://www.synectique.eu

2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

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Henrik Nergaard-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by Thierry Goubier

Yup, tried both itimer and threaded linux-x86_64 vm’s

Best regards,

Henrik

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Thierry Goubier
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:37 PM
To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

2016-11-09 13:28 GMT+01:00 Henrik Nergaard <[hidden email]>:

Got it running on Windows using “Ubuntu on Windows” and Xming server.

There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;)

You've used the linux 64bits vm?

Thierry

Best regards,

Henrik

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM
To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)

Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!

Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by CyrilFerlicot

Hi,

On Mac El Capitain, this one manages to open the 64bit Pharo 6 image:
https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip

But this one does not open the image:
https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf.zip

Cheers,
Doru

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>> Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image
>>
>> I am talking about this one
>>
>> pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>> <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>
>>
>>
>
> Are your images 64bits images?
>
> --
> Cyril Ferlicot
>
> http://www.synectique.eu
>
> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."

EstebanLM

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:59, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

On Mac El Capitain, this one manages to open the 64bit Pharo 6 image:
https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip

But this one does not open the image:
https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf.zip

does not opens which image? a 32bits image?

Esteban

Cheers,
Doru

On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image

I am talking about this one

pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
<https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>

Are your images 64bits images?

--
Cyril Ferlicot

http://www.synectique.eu

2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi,

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:59, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mac El Capitain, this one manages to open the 64bit Pharo 6 image:
>> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>>
>> But this one does not open the image:
>> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf.zip
>
> does not opens which image? a 32bits image?

No. The 64bit image. I use this one:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip

Doru

> Esteban
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>> Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image
>>>>
>>>> I am talking about this one
>>>>
>>>> pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>>>> <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are your images 64bits images?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cyril Ferlicot
>>>
>>> http://www.synectique.eu
>>>
>>> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
>>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>>>
>>
>> --
>> www.tudorgirba.com
>> www.feenk.com
>>
>> "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Being happy is a matter of choice."

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi,

Browsing through the image works fine.

If I understand correctly, UFFI is not yet working. Is this correct? I tried to play with Roassal and it does not work

Cheers,
Doru

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:59, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mac El Capitain, this one manages to open the 64bit Pharo 6 image:
>>> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>>>
>>> But this one does not open the image:
>>> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf.zip
>>
>> does not opens which image? a 32bits image?
>
> No. The 64bit image. I use this one:
> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip
>
> Doru
>
>
>> Esteban
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>>> Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image
>>>>>
>>>>> I am talking about this one
>>>>>
>>>>> pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>>>>> <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are your images 64bits images?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cyril Ferlicot
>>>>
>>>> http://www.synectique.eu
>>>>
>>>> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
>>>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>> www.feenk.com
>>>
>>> "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
> www.feenk.com
>
> "Being happy is a matter of choice."

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Every thing should have the right to be different."

Thierry Goubier

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by Tudor Girba-2

2016-11-09 14:12 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>:

Hi,

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:59, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mac El Capitain, this one manages to open the 64bit Pharo 6 image:
>> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>>
>> But this one does not open the image:
>> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf.zip
>
> does not opens which image? a 32bits image?

No. The 64bit image. I use this one:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip

Then the result is as it should be: a i386 vm can't run a 64bits image.

Thierry

Doru

> Esteban
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>> Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image
>>>>
>>>> I am talking about this one
>>>>
>>>> pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
>>>> <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are your images 64bits images?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cyril Ferlicot
>>>
>>> http://www.synectique.eu
>>>
>>> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
>>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
>>>
>>
>> --
>> www.tudorgirba.com
>> www.feenk.com
>>
>> "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Being happy is a matter of choice."

Tudor Girba-2

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi,

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2016-11-09 14:12 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>:
> Hi,
>
> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:59, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Mac El Capitain, this one manages to open the 64bit Pharo 6 image:
> >> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
> >>
> >> But this one does not open the image:
> >> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf.zip
> >
> > does not opens which image? a 32bits image?
>
> No. The 64bit image. I use this one:
> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip
>
> Then the result is as it should be: a i386 vm can't run a 64bits image.

Ok, I got it now. I confirm that pharo-mac-i386.0a4ccdf opens fine a 32 bit image.

Cheers,
Doru

> Thierry
>
>
>
> Doru
>
>
> > Esteban
> >
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Doru
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 09/11/2016 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> >>>> Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image
> >>>>
> >>>> I am talking about this one
> >>>>
> >>>> pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip
> >>>> <https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/download_file?file_path=pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Are your images 64bits images?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Cyril Ferlicot
> >>>
> >>> http://www.synectique.eu
> >>>
> >>> 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01,
> >>> 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> www.tudorgirba.com
> >> www.feenk.com
> >>
> >> "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
> www.feenk.com
>
> "Being happy is a matter of choice."

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

EstebanLM

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by kilon.alios

On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:34, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

Does not open either my Pharo 6 or Pharo 5 image

I am talking about this one

pharo-mac-x86_64.0a4ccdf.zip

this one is meant to open a 64bits image…

Esteban

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:29 PM Henrik Nergaard <[hidden email]> wrote:

Got it running on Windows using “Ubuntu on Windows” and Xming server.
There are some failing kernel tests, but no crash so far ;)

Best regards,
Henrik

From: Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Esteban Lorenzano
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 12:01 PM
To: Pharo Development List <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Pharo-dev] Please test new VMs (round one)

Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)

Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!

Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

Nicolas Cellier

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by kilon.alios

2016-11-09 13:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:

why not use Visual Studio ?

Hi Dimitris,

it's not possible for the moment because there are portability issues to solve (low level access to stack pointer, heartbeat, atomic ops, alignment, etc...)

I have some MSVC2015 .vcxproj configured for squeak 32/64 cog/stack spur VM if someone is interested...

Also windows architecture require LLP64 (sizeof long == 4), while cog/spur slang assumed sizeof long = sizeof void * (ILP32 or LP64).

With latest VMMaker changes fixing that problem, I have a working squeak stack spur64 compiled with ./mvm -f CC=x86_64-w64-mingw32-clang thru cygwin64.
Of course it remains to compile the pharo 3rd party.

The cog version (with JIT) crashes early (before opening the Squeak/Pharo window).

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:01 PM Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)
Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!
Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

kilon.alios

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

Ah low level nightmares , sound fun

On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 at 16:13, Nicolas Cellier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2016-11-09 13:36 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:
why not use Visual Studio ?

Hi Dimitris,
it's not possible for the moment because there are portability issues to solve (low level access to stack pointer, heartbeat, atomic ops, alignment, etc...)
I have some MSVC2015 .vcxproj configured for squeak 32/64 cog/stack spur VM if someone is interested...

Also windows architecture require LLP64 (sizeof long == 4), while cog/spur slang assumed sizeof long = sizeof void * (ILP32 or LP64).
With latest VMMaker changes fixing that problem, I have a working squeak stack spur64 compiled with ./mvm -f CC=x86_64-w64-mingw32-clang thru cygwin64.
Of course it remains to compile the pharo 3rd party.

The cog version (with JIT) crashes early (before opening the Squeak/Pharo window).

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:01 PM Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi guys,

I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know there are still missing things :)
Can you download a VM from here: https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files

and start using it, and report problems?

thanks!
Esteban

ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I would thank it :)

wernerk

Re: Please test new VMs (round one)

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

Hi,
i downloaded pharo-linux-x86_64itimer.0a4ccdf.zip, pharo-64.zip &
PharoV50.sources and simply extracted everything in one folder. i guess
this is not the correct procedure? i ask, because, when i print 1.0e19,
i get "1.9493552128e10", which looks somehow surprising to me.
werner

On 11/09/2016 12:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I want to start moving the VM stuff into the new structure. Now I know
> there are still missing things :)
> Can you download a VM from here:
> https://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build/201611082123#files
>
> and start using it, and report problems?
>
> thanks!
> Esteban
>
> ps: Windows users: I’m still not there, I’m having problems to build
> third-party libraries with cygwin… also if someone can help me here I
> would thank it :)