I'm doing some refactoring work on BorderDecorator today, to hopefully make it easier to do skinned scrollbars (see recent st11a builds). I have a soft place in my heart for the classic "Default" Smalltalk look policy. The one that we used in ObjectWorks, long before trying to emulate platform specific widgets came along. One peculiarity about the classic default look, was that it placed narrow local menu menu bars over various widgets (lists and text editors). This gave a place you could get the local pop up menu with a button1 click, rather than using button2 or 3.
I'd like to remove this feature in the interest of simplification. I'm curious how many there are out there that are relying on these and using them? -- Travis Griggs Objologist "I did not have time to write you a short program, so I wrote you a long one instead." _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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> I'd like to remove this feature in the interest of simplification. > I'm curious how many there are out there that are relying on these > and using them? Remove it. If I want to get a fuzzy warm feeling about the old ObjectWorks days I can still look at my archived screenshots or fire up a genuine st-80 in VMWare. Andre _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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On 8/19/2011 9:32 PM, Travis Griggs wrote:
> > > I'd like to remove this feature in the interest of simplification. I'm > curious how many there are out there that are relying on these and > using them? To me that looks like a waste of your time, kill that look all together please (if it walks like a hobby and talks like a hobby ...). Reinout ------- _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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As far as I remember, the menu bar bars were introduced in ancient
times to support users with one-button-mouse (or two-button-mouse
where one button was mapped to blue button). I cannot imagine that
users exist who still have to use such hardware. For me it seems
justified to finally get rid of that peculiarity.
Am 19.08.2011 21:32, schrieb Travis Griggs: I'm doing some refactoring work on BorderDecorator today, to hopefully make it easier to do skinned scrollbars (see recent st11a builds). I have a soft place in my heart for the classic "Default" Smalltalk look policy. The one that we used in ObjectWorks, long before trying to emulate platform specific widgets came along. One peculiarity about the classic default look, was that it placed narrow local menu menu bars over various widgets (lists and text editors). This gave a place you could get the local pop up menu with a button1 click, rather than using button2 or 3. Holger Guhl -- Senior Consultant * Certified Scrum Master * [hidden email] Tel: +49 231 9 75 99 21 * Fax: +49 231 9 75 99 20 Georg Heeg eK Dortmund Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Dortmund A 12812 _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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