Potential YAXO clash?

> I've been trying to use YAXO which is in the base image (I think due to
> STS).
>
> I've been finding it difficult to use, in that its functionality seems very
> limited to what I would expect (e.g. traversing nodes seems somewhat
> limited, and many methods don't seem to work well at all).
>
> Peter Kenny on the D5 forum has pointed out that the version on Dolphin
> Harbour (which looks to be what is included in D6) is potentially an older
> version (SqueakMap has a 2.0b version).
>
> This could pose problems if we can't upgrade to a newer version if STS has
> been written to an older protocol (luckily it doesn't seem to make much use
> of it from what I can see).

> Tim,
>
>> I've been trying to use YAXO which is in the base image (I think due
>> to STS).
>>
>> I've been finding it difficult to use, in that its functionality seems
>> very limited to what I would expect (e.g. traversing nodes seems
>> somewhat limited, and many methods don't seem to work well at all).
>>
>> Peter Kenny on the D5 forum has pointed out that the version on
>> Dolphin Harbour (which looks to be what is included in D6) is
>> potentially an older version (SqueakMap has a 2.0b version).
>>
>> This could pose problems if we can't upgrade to a newer version if STS
>> has been written to an older protocol (luckily it doesn't seem to make
>> much use of it from what I can see).
>
>
> "Can't upgrade" is probably over stating it.  I assume one would
> temporarily give STS a sedative, file in the new YAXO (or unload all
> dependent packages, including STS, then reload), then test and fix
> anything that is broken.
>
> I do not make much use of XML, but IMHO, anything from untrusted sources
> should not be run through the MS binaries.  Besides, I prefer to have
> Smalltalk code blow up at a syntax error vs. having to back out where it
> happened when a binary barks, and Smalltalk code won't suffer risk of
> thread affinities should one wish to parse in the background - just my 2
> asCents.
>
>
>> Is this likely to be a problem? I am trying to get a copy of the newer
>> version to see what happens if I import it into D6 - but it raises the
>> question of how to handle widening dependcies in the dolphin base?
>
>
> Hopefully STS can be upgraded to a newer version w/ very little effort.
>  One option would be to ship D6 w/ STS in package form but not initially
> loaded???  However, that still leaves the potential for it to break with
> a new version of YAXO.
>
> I don't know if it would be wise to create, but it would nice to have a
> way to upgrade a package vs. unload/reload.  Squeak effectively seems to
> do just that, but they also have a lot of broken features.  Whether that
> is partly because of forgiving "packaging" or simply the result of too
> many cooks is not clear to me.
>
> Have a good one,
>
> Bill
>
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