Preparing Glorp Tutorial at ESUG 2014

Dear François,

> There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description
> says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop.
> Is there any planned session to get this setup working?

I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow.  However, also:

1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday.  I will help
anyone there who asks to get set up.

2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell
me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting

set up.  I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break.

> We need a VW image

It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the
presenter.  Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download

the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version

(You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its
latest Glorp.  :-)  Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I

can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) )

> A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well?

The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the
presenter applies to your choice of database.

   - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine.

   - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK.

   - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK.  "SQL is
a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-)

> with Glorp loaded.  Any special steps to do that?

Load Glorp and GlorpTest.  (These are parcels in your VisualWorks
installation.  Components of the same name exist in other dialects.)

   - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of
GlorpDatabaseLoginResource.

   - Choose a method that matches your database platform.

   - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on
your machine.

   - Execute the method;  check the value of DefaultLogin is what you
expect.

   - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests.

On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green.

(On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected;  I
will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving
correctly.)

If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the
values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation.

            HTH
               Niall Ross

Dear François,

> There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description
> says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop.
> Is there any planned session to get this setup working?

I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow.  However, also:

1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday.  I will help
anyone there who asks to get set up.

2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell
me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting
set up.  I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break.

> We need a VW image

It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the
presenter.  Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download
the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version

(You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its
latest Glorp.  :-)  Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I
can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) )

> A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well?

The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the
presenter applies to your choice of database.

   - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine.

   - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK.

   - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK.  "SQL is
a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-)

> with Glorp loaded.  Any special steps to do that?

Load Glorp and GlorpTest.  (These are parcels in your VisualWorks
installation.  Components of the same name exist in other dialects.)

   - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of
GlorpDatabaseLoginResource.

   - Choose a method that matches your database platform.

   - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on
your machine.

   - Execute the method;  check the value of DefaultLogin is what you
expect.

   - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests.

On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green.

(On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected;  I
will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving
correctly.)

If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the
values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation.

            HTH
               Niall Ross

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Hello,

All the presentation that were given to the students volunteers at ESUG were uploaded here: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/presentations

Also I have found some presentations about GLORP:

http://www.slideshare.net/esug/round-trip-in-glorp

http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorial-talk

http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorialguide-esug201401

Cheers,

Alejandro

On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Юрий Мироненко <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Niall,

Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP tutorial intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip refactoring of a GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather rare, incomplete and outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure if any step outside simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses is an example.

Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download and read?
I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How and Where in GLORP".

2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <[hidden email]>:

Dear François,

> There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description
> says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop.
> Is there any planned session to get this setup working?

I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow.  However, also:

1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday.  I will help
anyone there who asks to get set up.

2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell
me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting
set up.  I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break.

> We need a VW image

It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the
presenter.  Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download
the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version

(You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its
latest Glorp.  :-)  Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I
can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) )

> A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well?

The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the
presenter applies to your choice of database.

   - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine.

   - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK.

   - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK.  "SQL is
a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-)

> with Glorp loaded.  Any special steps to do that?

Load Glorp and GlorpTest.  (These are parcels in your VisualWorks
installation.  Components of the same name exist in other dialects.)

   - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of
GlorpDatabaseLoginResource.

   - Choose a method that matches your database platform.

   - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on
your machine.

   - Execute the method;  check the value of DefaultLogin is what you
expect.

   - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests.

On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green.

(On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected;  I
will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving
correctly.)

If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the
values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation.

            HTH
               Niall Ross

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http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/1%20monday/1400-1500-Glorp/

http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/4%20thursday/1130-1200-Glorp/

The Abstract.txt has links to the slides and the video

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Alejandro Infante <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

All the presentation that were given to the students volunteers at ESUG were uploaded here: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/presentations

Also I have found some presentations about GLORP:

http://www.slideshare.net/esug/round-trip-in-glorp

http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorial-talk

http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorialguide-esug201401

Cheers,

Alejandro

On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Юрий Мироненко <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Niall,

Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP tutorial intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip refactoring of a GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather rare, incomplete and outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure if any step outside simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses is an example.

Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download and read?
I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How and Where in GLORP".

2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <[hidden email]>:

Dear François,

> There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description
> says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop.
> Is there any planned session to get this setup working?

I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow.  However, also:

1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday.  I will help
anyone there who asks to get set up.

2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell
me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting
set up.  I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break.

> We need a VW image

It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the
presenter.  Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download
the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version

(You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its
latest Glorp.  :-)  Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I
can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) )

> A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well?

The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the
presenter applies to your choice of database.

   - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine.

   - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK.

   - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK.  "SQL is
a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-)

> with Glorp loaded.  Any special steps to do that?

Load Glorp and GlorpTest.  (These are parcels in your VisualWorks
installation.  Components of the same name exist in other dialects.)

   - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of
GlorpDatabaseLoginResource.

   - Choose a method that matches your database platform.

   - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on
your machine.

   - Execute the method;  check the value of DefaultLogin is what you
expect.

   - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests.

On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green.

(On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected;  I
will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving
correctly.)

If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the
values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation.

            HTH
               Niall Ross

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