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Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Lukas Renggli
When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:

   This package depends on the following classes:
    AbstractTutorial

The full stack trace can be seen here:

  http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console

Cheers,
Lukas

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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.

Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.

Cheers,
Doru


On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>
>   This package depends on the following classes:
>    AbstractTutorial
>
> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>
>  http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Alexandre Bergel
Oups... Working on it now.  

Alexandre


On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>
> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>
>>  This package depends on the following classes:
>>   AbstractTutorial
>>
>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>
>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lukas
>>
>> --
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Lukas Renggli
Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.

Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
<http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.

Lukas

On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Oups... Working on it now.
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>
>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>
>>>  This package depends on the following classes:
>>>   AbstractTutorial
>>>
>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>
>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Lukas
>>>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
Hi Lukas,

I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange, because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.

I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage. Can anybody else reproduce?

Cheers,
Doru


On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>
> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>
> Lukas
>
> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>
>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>>
>>>>  This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>   AbstractTutorial
>>>>
>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>
>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
Hi,

I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing it now.

Cheers,
Doru



On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi Lukas,
>
> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange, because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>
> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage. Can anybody else reproduce?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>
>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>
>> Lukas
>>
>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>
>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>>>
>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>  AbstractTutorial
>>>>>
>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up again :)

Doru


On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing it now.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Hi Lukas,
>>
>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange, because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>
>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage. Can anybody else reproduce?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>
>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>
>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
Ok, it should work now.

Cheers,
Doru


On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:

> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up again :)
>
> Doru
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing it now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>
>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange, because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>
>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage. Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>
>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>
>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Lukas Renggli
Thank you, it works perfectly again.

Lukas

On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ok, it should work now.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up again :)
>>
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing it now.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>
>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange, because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage. Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>
>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
>>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Alexandre Bergel
Cool!

Alexandre


On 25 Sep 2010, at 15:54, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Thank you, it works perfectly again.
>
> Lukas
>
> On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Ok, it should work now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up again :)
>>>
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing it now.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange, because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage. Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the following error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>
>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
>>>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Hannes Hirzel
Hello

I tried it as well to load it into Pharo 1.1. with

Gofer new
        squeaksource: 'Glamour';
        package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
        load.

(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) perform: #loadDefault

But it did not load....

Is the load command correct?

--Hannes

On 9/25/10, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Cool!
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2010, at 15:54, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
>> Thank you, it works perfectly again.
>>
>> Lukas
>>
>> On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Ok, it should work now.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up again
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of
>>>>> MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing
>>>>> it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange,
>>>>>> because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage.
>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not
>>>>>>>>> load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the
>>>>>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be
>>>> done."
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Hannes Hirzel
P.S. I realize it it not Pharo 1.1 core

It is the one-click image from
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1

On 9/25/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I tried it as well to load it into Pharo 1.1. with
>
> Gofer new
> squeaksource: 'Glamour';
> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
> load.
>
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) perform: #loadDefault
>
> But it did not load....
>
> Is the load command correct?
>
> --Hannes
>
> On 9/25/10, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Cool!
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 15:54, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, it works perfectly again.
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Ok, it should work now.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up
>>>>> again
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of
>>>>>> MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing
>>>>>> it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange,
>>>>>>> because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage.
>>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not
>>>>>>>>>> load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the
>>>>>>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot
>>>>> be
>>>>> done."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>
>>>> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
It should load. What does it say?

Doru


On 26 Sep 2010, at 00:43, Hannes Hirzel wrote:

> P.S. I realize it it not Pharo 1.1 core
>
> It is the one-click image from
> http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1
>
> On 9/25/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I tried it as well to load it into Pharo 1.1. with
>>
>> Gofer new
>> squeaksource: 'Glamour';
>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
>> load.
>>
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) perform: #loadDefault
>>
>> But it did not load....
>>
>> Is the load command correct?
>>
>> --Hannes
>>
>> On 9/25/10, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 15:54, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you, it works perfectly again.
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
>>>> On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, it should work now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of
>>>>>>> MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing
>>>>>>> it now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange,
>>>>>>>> because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage.
>>>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not
>>>>>>>>>>> load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> done."
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Tudor Girba
I just tried now to load in the 1.1 one click image and it worked just fine.

Cheers,
Doru


On 26 Sep 2010, at 10:13, Tudor Girba wrote:

> It should load. What does it say?
>
> Doru
>
>
> On 26 Sep 2010, at 00:43, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
>
>> P.S. I realize it it not Pharo 1.1 core
>>
>> It is the one-click image from
>> http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1
>>
>> On 9/25/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I tried it as well to load it into Pharo 1.1. with
>>>
>>> Gofer new
>>> squeaksource: 'Glamour';
>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
>>> load.
>>>
>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) perform: #loadDefault
>>>
>>> But it did not load....
>>>
>>> Is the load command correct?
>>>
>>> --Hannes
>>>
>>> On 9/25/10, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Cool!
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 15:54, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you, it works perfectly again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok, it should work now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up
>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of
>>>>>>>> MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am testing
>>>>>>>> it now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange,
>>>>>>>>> because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not manage.
>>>>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>>>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not
>>>>>>>>>>>> load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
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>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> done."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
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>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Re: Problem loading Glamour into PharoCore 1.1

Hannes Hirzel
Thank you for checking. I tried it again today on a better internet
connection (I had GPRS/Edge) and now it worked fine. (It was probably
a time out problem)...

--Hannes

On 9/26/10, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I just tried now to load in the 1.1 one click image and it worked just fine.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 26 Sep 2010, at 10:13, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> It should load. What does it say?
>>
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 26 Sep 2010, at 00:43, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
>>
>>> P.S. I realize it it not Pharo 1.1 core
>>>
>>> It is the one-click image from
>>> http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-1
>>>
>>> On 9/25/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I tried it as well to load it into Pharo 1.1. with
>>>>
>>>> Gofer new
>>>> squeaksource: 'Glamour';
>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
>>>> load.
>>>>
>>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamour) perform: #loadDefault
>>>>
>>>> But it did not load....
>>>>
>>>> Is the load command correct?
>>>>
>>>> --Hannes
>>>>
>>>> On 9/25/10, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Cool!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 15:54, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, it works perfectly again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 September 2010 21:06, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok, it should work now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:42, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> squeaksource.com is down right now. I will retest when it comes up
>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 19:11, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I managed to reproduce the problem. It was due to an extension of
>>>>>>>>> MOViewRenderer in Glamour-Scripting (openWithStatusbar). I am
>>>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>>>> it now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lukas,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have the same problem on the moose hudson server. It's strange,
>>>>>>>>>> because there should be no subclass of MOViewRenderer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to reproduce it on my Mac, but somehow I do not
>>>>>>>>>> manage.
>>>>>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2010, at 18:28, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like the situation changed now, but it still doesn't load.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now Metacello complains that it can't find MOViewRenderer, see
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/140/console>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 September 2010 16:19, Alexandre Bergel
>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oups... Working on it now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2010, at 00:53, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Lukas for pointing this out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, this happens because the ConfigurationOfMondrian does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> load ProfStef.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:19, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I try to load Glamour into PharoCore 1.1 I end up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AbstractTutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The full stack trace can be seen here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Glamour/139/console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it
>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> done."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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