Problem with Seaside - image freezing

Hi Everyone

I hate putting up stupid questions so I apologise if this is one. I am running a 9.2.2 image that is a Seaside application. I am running it out of the image so it is not a runtime. I operate this image for the benefit of my local scale model club.

Check out http://www.ipms-clacton.or.uk. This come from a standard web page. If you click on any link, it will take you to the seaside application running on port 8080.

The website runs nicely. It is quick and has great functionality that suits the local club.

The problem is that, every 36 hours or so, the image freezes and I have to restart the image.  I have been running this code since 9.0  and the problem has been there is every version. The annoying thing is that this is running on a headless server using Microsoft RDP to access it. This means that I, often, don't know that it has frozen. Has anyone out there with experience of Seaside had this problem? If so, is there a way round it.

I would like to give you more information buy my web logs don't provide any consistent page requests and I am not sure how to get anything more from a frozen image.

David

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Hi David,

To get more accurate responses, it would be better if you can give more details. Which Windows version and bitness are you running it? Which VAST bitness are you using? 

In any case, in the upcoming VAST 2021 release we have fixed a few long standing bugs (circa 1997, IBM times) that could explain the situation you are seeing. Not only you, but I have heard others "restarting" their Seaside images every night. I hope we fixed that in 10.0.x. And if we didn't, then I can tell you a way to interrupt the VM and see what is going on.

So.... please, try with the recently released ECAP https://www.instantiations.com/ecap/ and let me know if it still happens with it. 

Thanks, 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 1:54 PM Totally Objects <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Everyone

I hate putting up stupid questions so I apologise if this is one. I am running a 9.2.2 image that is a Seaside application. I am running it out of the image so it is not a runtime. I operate this image for the benefit of my local scale model club.

Check out http://www.ipms-clacton.or.uk. This come from a standard web page. If you click on any link, it will take you to the seaside application running on port 8080.

The website runs nicely. It is quick and has great functionality that suits the local club.

The problem is that, every 36 hours or so, the image freezes and I have to restart the image.  I have been running this code since 9.0  and the problem has been there is every version. The annoying thing is that this is running on a headless server using Microsoft RDP to access it. This means that I, often, don't know that it has frozen. Has anyone out there with experience of Seaside had this problem? If so, is there a way round it.

I would like to give you more information buy my web logs don't provide any consistent page requests and I am not sure how to get anything more from a frozen image.

David

Totally Objects

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Hi Mariano

Windows Server 2012, 64 bit, VAST 9.2.2 64 bit.

I will try the ECAP and report back.

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:14:47 PM UTC [hidden email] wrote:

Hi David,

To get more accurate responses, it would be better if you can give more details. Which Windows version and bitness are you running it? Which VAST bitness are you using? 

In any case, in the upcoming VAST 2021 release we have fixed a few long standing bugs (circa 1997, IBM times) that could explain the situation you are seeing. Not only you, but I have heard others "restarting" their Seaside images every night. I hope we fixed that in 10.0.x. And if we didn't, then I can tell you a way to interrupt the VM and see what is going on.

So.... please, try with the recently released ECAP https://www.instantiations.com/ecap/ and let me know if it still happens with it. 

Thanks, 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 1:54 PM Totally Objects <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Everyone

I hate putting up stupid questions so I apologise if this is one. I am running a 9.2.2 image that is a Seaside application. I am running it out of the image so it is not a runtime. I operate this image for the benefit of my local scale model club.

Check out http://www.ipms-clacton.or.uk. This come from a standard web page. If you click on any link, it will take you to the seaside application running on port 8080.

The website runs nicely. It is quick and has great functionality that suits the local club.

The problem is that, every 36 hours or so, the image freezes and I have to restart the image.  I have been running this code since 9.0  and the problem has been there is every version. The annoying thing is that this is running on a headless server using Microsoft RDP to access it. This means that I, often, don't know that it has frozen. Has anyone out there with experience of Seaside had this problem? If so, is there a way round it.

I would like to give you more information buy my web logs don't provide any consistent page requests and I am not sure how to get anything more from a frozen image.

David

Totally Objects

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OK Mariano. I thought that we had it sorted. Running under the ECAP, it started at 27th Nov. @ 19:39 and froze around 29th @ 15:26 (according to my logs).

That's much better that we had before but still not good.

David

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:33:38 PM UTC Totally Objects wrote:

Hi Mariano

Windows Server 2012, 64 bit, VAST 9.2.2 64 bit.

I will try the ECAP and report back.

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:14:47 PM UTC [hidden email] wrote:

Hi David,

To get more accurate responses, it would be better if you can give more details. Which Windows version and bitness are you running it? Which VAST bitness are you using? 

In any case, in the upcoming VAST 2021 release we have fixed a few long standing bugs (circa 1997, IBM times) that could explain the situation you are seeing. Not only you, but I have heard others "restarting" their Seaside images every night. I hope we fixed that in 10.0.x. And if we didn't, then I can tell you a way to interrupt the VM and see what is going on.

So.... please, try with the recently released ECAP https://www.instantiations.com/ecap/ and let me know if it still happens with it. 

Thanks, 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 1:54 PM Totally Objects <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Everyone

I hate putting up stupid questions so I apologise if this is one. I am running a 9.2.2 image that is a Seaside application. I am running it out of the image so it is not a runtime. I operate this image for the benefit of my local scale model club.

Check out http://www.ipms-clacton.or.uk. This come from a standard web page. If you click on any link, it will take you to the seaside application running on port 8080.

The website runs nicely. It is quick and has great functionality that suits the local club.

The problem is that, every 36 hours or so, the image freezes and I have to restart the image.  I have been running this code since 9.0  and the problem has been there is every version. The annoying thing is that this is running on a headless server using Microsoft RDP to access it. This means that I, often, don't know that it has frozen. Has anyone out there with experience of Seaside had this problem? If so, is there a way round it.

I would like to give you more information buy my web logs don't provide any consistent page requests and I am not sure how to get anything more from a frozen image.

David

Totally Objects

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Hi David, 

Some quick questions:

1) When you load your code on ECAP, did you make sure to update your required maps to the latest version of 10.0.0x? In other words, are you sure that while loading your project, you didn't bring old versions of our maps/apps.

2) When it  "freeze", what's the status of the CPU? Is it kind of idle or burning at 100% usage?

3) How are you starting the image? As a Windows service or manually? 

4) Is there a chance you run the image from a CMD, let the CMD open and when hungs, RDP into Windows and be able to do something? 

BTW, since you have an active support license, feel free to continue this as a support case and we can assign engineering resources to it. 

Best, 

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 2:18 PM Totally Objects <[hidden email]> wrote:

OK Mariano. I thought that we had it sorted. Running under the ECAP, it started at 27th Nov. @ 19:39 and froze around 29th @ 15:26 (according to my logs).

That's much better that we had before but still not good.

David

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:33:38 PM UTC Totally Objects wrote:

Hi Mariano

Windows Server 2012, 64 bit, VAST 9.2.2 64 bit.

I will try the ECAP and report back.

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:14:47 PM UTC [hidden email] wrote:

Hi David,

To get more accurate responses, it would be better if you can give more details. Which Windows version and bitness are you running it? Which VAST bitness are you using? 

In any case, in the upcoming VAST 2021 release we have fixed a few long standing bugs (circa 1997, IBM times) that could explain the situation you are seeing. Not only you, but I have heard others "restarting" their Seaside images every night. I hope we fixed that in 10.0.x. And if we didn't, then I can tell you a way to interrupt the VM and see what is going on.

So.... please, try with the recently released ECAP https://www.instantiations.com/ecap/ and let me know if it still happens with it. 

Thanks, 

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 1:54 PM Totally Objects <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Everyone

I hate putting up stupid questions so I apologise if this is one. I am running a 9.2.2 image that is a Seaside application. I am running it out of the image so it is not a runtime. I operate this image for the benefit of my local scale model club.

Check out http://www.ipms-clacton.or.uk. This come from a standard web page. If you click on any link, it will take you to the seaside application running on port 8080.

The website runs nicely. It is quick and has great functionality that suits the local club.

The problem is that, every 36 hours or so, the image freezes and I have to restart the image.  I have been running this code since 9.0  and the problem has been there is every version. The annoying thing is that this is running on a headless server using Microsoft RDP to access it. This means that I, often, don't know that it has frozen. Has anyone out there with experience of Seaside had this problem? If so, is there a way round it.

I would like to give you more information buy my web logs don't provide any consistent page requests and I am not sure how to get anything more from a frozen image.

David

Totally Objects

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