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Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc

stefano-franchi
I did not see any report on this problem on the list, but in my setup
7.5nc is pretty much unusable,  because selecting a portion of text
mangles up the characters and renders the text unreadable.
Has anyone else seen this? I am on a Mac Powerbook G4, running MacOs
10.3.9. I am using the Mac VM. I appended a small example of the
mangled text below. It appears the editor redraws the selected text
with the wrong spacing.



Cheers,

Stefano






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RE: Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc

Steven Kelly
Yes, we see the same kind of problems on a PPC eMac using the native VM.
The 7.4d native VM and 7.4d X11 VM didn't have this problem. For us, it
looks like the width of the characters calculated by VW is less than is
actually drawn, so the selection highlight doesn't reach the end of the
text.

There also seems to be a problem in double-buffering with Pixmaps,
whereby the Pixmap displays correctly but also obscures a wide border of
the surrounding widgets with grey. The width of the border increases as
scaleX and scaleY increase (these are meant to be ignored by the VM for
ScreenGraphicsContexts, and GF/ST uses them to remember its own
scaling). The clipping rectangle values in the image look OK, so maybe
the VM is misinterpreting them. The same problem, albeit not quite as
bad, has been seen with the Linux VMs as long as I remember, and also
with the Mac X11 7.4d VMs.

On the plus side, the scrollbar graphic glitches are gone, and so are
some problems in drawing through Masks. Still, for us the best solution
looks to be the Mac X11 VM, even with the extra hassle for our users.
We're really looking forward to the first version of the native VMs that
will beat the X11 VMs in quality and performance!

Keep up the good work, Cincom.
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Franchi [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 4. toukokuuta 2007 5:26
> To: 'vwnc'
> Cc: Stefano Franchi
> Subject: Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc
>
>
> I did not see any report on this problem on the list, but in my setup
> 7.5nc is pretty much unusable,  because selecting a portion of text
> mangles up the characters and renders the text unreadable.
> Has anyone else seen this? I am on a Mac Powerbook G4, running MacOs
> 10.3.9. I am using the Mac VM. I appended a small example of the
> mangled text below. It appears the editor redraws the selected text
> with the wrong spacing.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
>
>

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Re: Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc

stefano-franchi

On 4 May, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Steven Kelly wrote:

> Yes, we see the same kind of problems on a PPC eMac using the native
> VM.
> The 7.4d native VM and 7.4d X11 VM didn't have this problem. For us, it
> looks like the width of the characters calculated by VW is less than is
> actually drawn, so the selection highlight doesn't reach the end of the
> text.
>


Ah, I am glad to hear I am not the only one, at least. My problem seems
to be exactly the same. Additionally, deselecting the text often (but
not always) leaves both sets of characters on the screen, effectively
making it unreadable.

A possibly related problem I am encountering concerns the wrapping of
lines: VW seems to think the pane is actually much wider than it
actually is, and wraps the line off screen (off-pane, I should say).

> There also seems to be a problem in double-buffering with Pixmaps,
> whereby the Pixmap displays correctly but also obscures a wide border
> of
> the surrounding widgets with grey. The width of the border increases as
> scaleX and scaleY increase (these are meant to be ignored by the VM for
> ScreenGraphicsContexts, and GF/ST uses them to remember its own
> scaling). The clipping rectangle values in the image look OK, so maybe
> the VM is misinterpreting them. The same problem, albeit not quite as
> bad, has been seen with the Linux VMs as long as I remember, and also
> with the Mac X11 7.4d VMs.
>

I have not noticed this problem

> On the plus side, the scrollbar graphic glitches are gone, and so are
> some problems in drawing through Masks.

Yes, scrollbars function all right, now

> Still, for us the best solution
> looks to be the Mac X11 VM, even with the extra hassle for our users.
> We're really looking forward to the first version of the native VMs
> that
> will beat the X11 VMs in quality and performance!
>

I have switched to the X11 VM as well, although keeping two windowing
environments running puts serious constraints on my RAM.



Best,

Stefano

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Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
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Re: Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc

stefano-franchi
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On 4 May, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Steven Kelly wrote:

> Yes, we see the same kind of problems on a PPC eMac using the native
> VM.
> The 7.4d native VM and 7.4d X11 VM didn't have this problem. For us, it
> looks like the width of the characters calculated by VW is less than is
> actually drawn, so the selection highlight doesn't reach the end of the
> text.
>


Ah, I am glad to hear I am not the only one, at least. My problem seems
to be exactly the same. Additionally, deselecting the text often (but
not always) leaves both sets of characters on the screen, effectively
making it unreadable.

A possibly related problem I am encountering concerns the wrapping of
lines: VW seems to think the pane is actually much wider than it
actually is, and wraps the line off screen (off-pane, I should say).

> There also seems to be a problem in double-buffering with Pixmaps,
> whereby the Pixmap displays correctly but also obscures a wide border
> of
> the surrounding widgets with grey. The width of the border increases as
> scaleX and scaleY increase (these are meant to be ignored by the VM for
> ScreenGraphicsContexts, and GF/ST uses them to remember its own
> scaling). The clipping rectangle values in the image look OK, so maybe
> the VM is misinterpreting them. The same problem, albeit not quite as
> bad, has been seen with the Linux VMs as long as I remember, and also
> with the Mac X11 7.4d VMs.
>

I have not noticed this problem

> On the plus side, the scrollbar graphic glitches are gone, and so are
> some problems in drawing through Masks.

Yes, scrollbars function all right, now

> Still, for us the best solution
> looks to be the Mac X11 VM, even with the extra hassle for our users.
> We're really looking forward to the first version of the native VMs
> that
> will beat the X11 VMs in quality and performance!
>

I have switched to the X11 VM as well, although keeping two windowing
environments running puts serious constraints on my RAM.



Best,

Stefano

__________________________________________________
Stefano Franchi
Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
Auckland
New Zealand


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Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
Auckland
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SimberonReport reduceBy: missing

Giorgio Ferraris
Hi,
I wanted to give a try to SimberonReport, so I loaded the bundle from the
public store on a VW7.5 image on Windows XP.

The method Reports.ReportViewer>>updateReport send the message reduceBy: to
a page (a Depth32Image).

On my image there are no implementers for te reduceBy: method. Am I missing
some prerequisite?

Thanks

Giorgio Ferraris


No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/789 - Release Date: 04/05/2007
17.49
 

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Re: SimberonReport reduceBy: missing

davidbuck
The call to reduceBy: was added in version 1.3 by Chris Lopeman.  He
should be able to tell you where that method came from.  In the
meantime, you can try loading version 1.2 which should work.

David Buck
Simberon Inc.
www.simberon.com

Giorgio Ferraris wrote:

> Hi,
> I wanted to give a try to SimberonReport, so I loaded the bundle from the
> public store on a VW7.5 image on Windows XP.
>
> The method Reports.ReportViewer>>updateReport send the message reduceBy: to
> a page (a Depth32Image).
>
> On my image there are no implementers for te reduceBy: method. Am I missing
> some prerequisite?
>
> Thanks
>
> Giorgio Ferraris
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.4/789 - Release Date: 04/05/2007
> 17.49
>  
>
>
>  

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RE: Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc

Steven Kelly
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I note that we are both using Panther 10.3.9... It may be useful to John
Sarkela if anyone else is on a PowerPC with 10.3.9, and is NOT seeing
this font problem with the 7.5 native VM.

You won't notice the Pixmap problem unless you use GF/ST, in all
likelihood. It's presumably related to the scaleX and scaleY values,
which will be 1 for all other ScreenGraphicsContexts, but any value for
GF/ST's own subclass. The VM should ignore the values, and indeed does
so on Windows. On Linux and the new Mac VM, the values affect the size
of the erroneous border.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Franchi [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 5. toukokuuta 2007 7:54
> To: Steven Kelly
> Cc: Stefano Franchi; vwnc
> Subject: Re: Problems with text (paragraph editor?) in 7.5nc
>
>
>
> On 4 May, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Steven Kelly wrote:
>
> > Yes, we see the same kind of problems on a PPC eMac using the native
> > VM.
> > The 7.4d native VM and 7.4d X11 VM didn't have this
> problem. For us, it
> > looks like the width of the characters calculated by VW is
> less than is
> > actually drawn, so the selection highlight doesn't reach
> the end of the
> > text.
> >
>
>
> Ah, I am glad to hear I am not the only one, at least. My
> problem seems
> to be exactly the same. Additionally, deselecting the text often (but
> not always) leaves both sets of characters on the screen, effectively
> making it unreadable.
>
> A possibly related problem I am encountering concerns the wrapping of
> lines: VW seems to think the pane is actually much wider than it
> actually is, and wraps the line off screen (off-pane, I should say).
> > There also seems to be a problem in double-buffering with Pixmaps,
> > whereby the Pixmap displays correctly but also obscures a
> wide border
> > of
> > the surrounding widgets with grey. The width of the border
> increases as
> > scaleX and scaleY increase (these are meant to be ignored
> by the VM for
> > ScreenGraphicsContexts, and GF/ST uses them to remember its own
> > scaling). The clipping rectangle values in the image look
> OK, so maybe
> > the VM is misinterpreting them. The same problem, albeit
> not quite as
> > bad, has been seen with the Linux VMs as long as I
> remember, and also
> > with the Mac X11 7.4d VMs.
> >
>
> I have not noticed this problem
>
> > On the plus side, the scrollbar graphic glitches are gone,
> and so are
> > some problems in drawing through Masks.
>
> Yes, scrollbars function all right, now
>
> > Still, for us the best solution
> > looks to be the Mac X11 VM, even with the extra hassle for
> our users.
> > We're really looking forward to the first version of the native VMs
> > that
> > will beat the X11 VMs in quality and performance!
> >
>
> I have switched to the X11 VM as well, although keeping two windowing
> environments running puts serious constraints on my RAM.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Stefano
>
> __________________________________________________
> Stefano Franchi
> Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
> University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
> Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
> Auckland
> New Zealand
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Stefano Franchi
> Department of Philosophy                  Ph:  (64)  9 373-7599 x83940
> University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-8768
> Private Bag 92019 [hidden email]
> Auckland
> New Zealand
>