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Joachim Geidel

Public Repository cleanup needed

Yesterday somebody has published the HotDraw packages and the
Collections bundle to the Cincom public repository using the guest
account. That wouldn't be too bad if the Collections bundle had a
reasonable version name indicating from what VisualWorks version it has
been published, and if it contains any changes from the VW distribution.
Unfortunately, whoever published it chose to name it "1.0". This will be
confusing for people who are not very familiar with VW and Store, who
might assume that this is an official release from Cincom.

These bundles and packages should be deleted from the repository or at
the very least marked as broken.

I don't intend to blame the person who published the two bundles. For
beginners, it's maybe not obvious that the guest account for the public
repository which is configured in the base image is not meant for
everybody's daily work, and that one should install a local Store
repository for that purpose.

Is it reasonable to give guest accounts write permission? With named
accounts, the maintainers of the repository can at least contact the
people who do non-standard things in the repository. Revoking write
permissions from the guest account would be a safeguard against this
kind of misunderstanding.

Best regards,
Joachim Geidel

Steven Kelly

RE: Public Repository cleanup needed

Earlier, it was not possible to publish as guest. Perhaps that setting
got lost when moving to the new server for the public store? I'd agree
that we shouldn't allow anonymous publishing, and that setting should be
reinstated as soon as possible.

I'd actually prefer it if there was some better way to identify people,
e.g. via an email address. Having nicknames is OK if there is a way to
send messages within the system, but Store doesn't support that. There
are currently 397 users who have published in the public Store, so we
can hardly claim we all know each other anyway!

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joachim Geidel [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 25. marraskuuta 2007 10:36
> To: vwnc-list
> Subject: Public Repository cleanup needed
>
>
> Yesterday somebody has published the HotDraw packages and the
> Collections bundle to the Cincom public repository using the
> guest account. That wouldn't be too bad if the Collections
> bundle had a reasonable version name indicating from what
> VisualWorks version it has been published, and if it contains
> any changes from the VW distribution. Unfortunately, whoever
> published it chose to name it "1.0". This will be confusing
> for people who are not very familiar with VW and Store, who
> might assume that this is an official release from Cincom.
>
> These bundles and packages should be deleted from the
> repository or at the very least marked as broken.
>
> I don't intend to blame the person who published the two
> bundles. For beginners, it's maybe not obvious that the guest
> account for the public repository which is configured in the
> base image is not meant for everybody's daily work, and that
> one should install a local Store repository for that purpose.
>
> Is it reasonable to give guest accounts write permission?
> With named accounts, the maintainers of the repository can at
> least contact the people who do non-standard things in the
> repository. Revoking write permissions from the guest account
> would be a safeguard against this kind of misunderstanding.
>
> Best regards,
> Joachim Geidel
>
>

Terry Raymond

RE: Public Repository cleanup needed

In reply to this post by Joachim Geidel

I also think that the public repository should not be
used for class projects as they don't have general application.

I think it would be nice for Cincom to provide a repository
to make it easier for class projects, but I don't think
they should be mixed with packages intended for general use.

Terry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joachim Geidel [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:36 AM
> To: vwnc-list
> Subject: Public Repository cleanup needed
>
> Yesterday somebody has published the HotDraw packages and the
> Collections bundle to the Cincom public repository using the guest
> account. That wouldn't be too bad if the Collections bundle had a
> reasonable version name indicating from what VisualWorks version it has
> been published, and if it contains any changes from the VW distribution.
> Unfortunately, whoever published it chose to name it "1.0". This will be
> confusing for people who are not very familiar with VW and Store, who
> might assume that this is an official release from Cincom.
>
> These bundles and packages should be deleted from the repository or at
> the very least marked as broken.
>
> I don't intend to blame the person who published the two bundles. For
> beginners, it's maybe not obvious that the guest account for the public
> repository which is configured in the base image is not meant for
> everybody's daily work, and that one should install a local Store
> repository for that purpose.
>
> Is it reasonable to give guest accounts write permission? With named
> accounts, the maintainers of the repository can at least contact the
> people who do non-standard things in the repository. Revoking write
> permissions from the guest account would be a safeguard against this
> kind of misunderstanding.
>
> Best regards,
> Joachim Geidel

Niall Ross

Re: Public Repository cleanup needed

In reply to this post by Steven Kelly

Dear all,

Steven Kelly wrote:

>Earlier, it was not possible to publish as guest. Perhaps that setting
>got lost when moving to the new server for the public store? I'd agree
>that we shouldn't allow anonymous publishing, and that setting should be
>reinstated as soon as possible.
>
>
I _strongly_ agree.

Yours faithfully
Niall Ross

Alan Knight-2

Re: Public Repository cleanup needed

In reply to this post by Joachim Geidel

The guest account shouldn't have had publish permissions. The table permissions were lost when we moved over to the new database. This should be fixed now.

At 03:35 AM 11/25/2007, Joachim Geidel wrote:

Yesterday somebody has published the HotDraw packages and the
Collections bundle to the Cincom public repository using the guest
account. That wouldn't be too bad if the Collections bundle had a
reasonable version name indicating from what VisualWorks version it has
been published, and if it contains any changes from the VW distribution.
Unfortunately, whoever published it chose to name it "1.0". This will be
confusing for people who are not very familiar with VW and Store, who
might assume that this is an official release from Cincom.

These bundles and packages should be deleted from the repository or at
the very least marked as broken.

I don't intend to blame the person who published the two bundles. For
beginners, it's maybe not obvious that the guest account for the public
repository which is configured in the base image is not meant for
everybody's daily work, and that one should install a local Store
repository for that purpose.

Is it reasonable to give guest accounts write permission? With named
accounts, the maintainers of the repository can at least contact the
people who do non-standard things in the repository. Revoking write
permissions from the guest account would be a safeguard against this
kind of misunderstanding.

Best regards,
Joachim Geidel

Alan Knight [|], Cincom Smalltalk Development

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