[Q] Can I convert old image (3.8 based image) for using with newer VM (like Cog)?

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[Q] Can I convert old image (3.8 based image) for using with newer VM (like Cog)?

Sungjin Chun
 
Sorry if this question is not appropriate to this mailing list.

Can I convert my good old image(3.8 based MVC) so that I can use with
newer VM like Cog?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Q] Can I convert old image (3.8 based image) for using with newer VM (like Cog)?

Eliot Miranda-2
 
Hi Chun,

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Sungjin Chun <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry if this question is not appropriate to this mailing list.

Can I convert my good old image(3.8 based MVC) so that I can use with
newer VM like Cog?

It's certainly possible but you may find it quite painful.  The original bootstrap is at http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/Closures0811/Bootstrap/.  The problem with this code is that it is missing over two years of bug fixes and improvements.  So even if you were to apply this to your image you'd find you had something that needed a lot of work to bring to a correct state.

I suspect you will be /much/ better off trying to extract your code from the 3.8 image and load it into a trunk Squeak in MVC mode.  It's likely that some people in the community will be eager to help you make sure that the MVC support is functional.

HTH,
Eliot
 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Q] Can I convert old image (3.8 based image) for using with newer VM (like Cog)?

Sungjin Chun

Ah, thank you. If remaining on MVC is more painful than using light
weight images like Cuis, then I'd rather move on it. ;-)

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 00:38, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi Chun,
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Sungjin Chun <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry if this question is not appropriate to this mailing list.
>>
>> Can I convert my good old image(3.8 based MVC) so that I can use with
>> newer VM like Cog?
>
> It's certainly possible but you may find it quite painful.  The original bootstrap is at http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/Closures0811/Bootstrap/.  The problem with this code is that it is missing over two years of bug fixes and improvements.  So even if you were to apply this to your image you'd find you had something that needed a lot of work to bring to a correct state.
> I suspect you will be /much/ better off trying to extract your code from the 3.8 image and load it into a trunk Squeak in MVC mode.  It's likely that some people in the community will be eager to help you make sure that the MVC support is functional.
> HTH,
> Eliot
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
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Re: [Q] Can I convert old image (3.8 based image) for using with newer VM (like Cog)?

Eliot Miranda-2
 


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Sungjin Chun <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ah, thank you. If remaining on MVC is more painful than using light
weight images like Cuis, then I'd rather move on it. ;-)

Excellent solution.  Go Cuis!
 

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 00:38, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Chun,
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Sungjin Chun <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry if this question is not appropriate to this mailing list.
>>
>> Can I convert my good old image(3.8 based MVC) so that I can use with
>> newer VM like Cog?
>
> It's certainly possible but you may find it quite painful.  The original bootstrap is at http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/Closures0811/Bootstrap/.  The problem with this code is that it is missing over two years of bug fixes and improvements.  So even if you were to apply this to your image you'd find you had something that needed a lot of work to bring to a correct state.
> I suspect you will be /much/ better off trying to extract your code from the 3.8 image and load it into a trunk Squeak in MVC mode.  It's likely that some people in the community will be eager to help you make sure that the MVC support is functional.
> HTH,
> Eliot
>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>