Quotes in a string

Hello Sergei,

see answers below.

Best,

Solveig Viste
Instantiations
VA Smalltalk Support

On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 2:21:26 PM UTC-5, <a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="-vpStHEaCAAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">ipstools...@... wrote:

Hi all!
1. Couldn`t find it in the docs how to create a string constant, having single or double quotes, or both? Is there something special if i want to use such a constant in a PRAGMA statement of pool dictionary?
I guessed -  double single quotes inserts a single quote, and no special arrangement for double quotes. But PRAGMA doesn`t accepts a double quotes in a string. Is this a bug?

<a href="http://www.instantiations.com/docs/90/pr/stpr660.html" style="color:rgb(153,153,204);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fpr%2Fstpr660.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHv6-lT8R0XFjXXqzHaPuziUmPnyw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fpr%2Fstpr660.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHv6-lT8R0XFjXXqzHaPuziUmPnyw&#39;;return true;">Pragmas : <a href="http://www.instantiations.com/docs/90/pr/stpr665.html" style="color:rgb(204,0,51);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fpr%2Fstpr665.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNE6jTg3Vb6zA8aQdtIX8ns0I8i5pw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fpr%2Fstpr665.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNE6jTg3Vb6zA8aQdtIX8ns0I8i5pw&#39;;return true;">Namespace pragmas : <a href="http://www.instantiations.com/docs/90/pr/stpr669.html" style="color:rgb(153,153,204);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fpr%2Fstpr669.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG9lN0H7bXP3tb9RigTpwVXefg35w&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fpr%2Fstpr669.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNG9lN0H7bXP3tb9RigTpwVXefg35w&#39;;return true;">Declarations : Declaration syntax 

<a href="http://www.instantiations.com/docs/90/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/stpr671.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Fstpr671.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEZWO7IMO64wYEJzs0pGRTAqCJ8KA&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fdocs%2F90%2Fwwhelp%2Fwwhimpl%2Fjs%2Fhtml%2Fwwhelp.htm%23href%3Dpr%2Fstpr671.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEZWO7IMO64wYEJzs0pGRTAqCJ8KA&#39;;return true;">http://www.instantiations.com/docs/90/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwhelp.htm#href=pr/stpr671.html

describes declaration syntax.  The syntax already uses the double quote and single quote.

there is no description for embedding  a single quote or a double quote within portions of the syntax denoted as " aString "

 

2. National symbols in code editor are displayed as question marks ???  How do I fix this?
Still searching the solution.

Can you give an example of the national symbol which does not display correctly? If you are running on Windows, what is your language and locale?

3. Need to distinguish and filter user inputs of Del and Bs thorough XmNmodifyVerifyCallback callback. But on unknown reason Smalltalk erases the Del and Bs events from keyboard (see pic.). Is there any workaround?

Del and Bs are defined in the pool dictionary CldtConstants

Since you are using CwText, look at the following which handle Del and/or Bs as a special case. 

CwText>>callModifyVerifyCallback: 

OSLargeText>>wmKeydown:with: 

OSLargeText>>processCharacter: 

OSTextEdit>>wmChar:with: 

You may want to subclass CwText to handle the Del and Bs characters differently.

Sergei.

<a href="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V2xXXjwND0Y/Wp2IhDjK33I/AAAAAAAAAAc/qT--C81eeqgn3FOExs24CPTFPIdvBlwNwCLcBGAs/s1600/Captured001.png" style="margin-left:1em;margin-right:1em" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V2xXXjwND0Y/Wp2IhDjK33I/AAAAAAAAAAc/qT--C81eeqgn3FOExs24CPTFPIdvBlwNwCLcBGAs/s1600/Captured001.png&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V2xXXjwND0Y/Wp2IhDjK33I/AAAAAAAAAAc/qT--C81eeqgn3FOExs24CPTFPIdvBlwNwCLcBGAs/s1600/Captured001.png&#39;;return true;">

Greetings Sergei,

Are there any plans to fix codepage bugs?

We fixed a lot of codepage bugs in 9.1.0, so yes...we fix codepage bugs:)

In this case, I'm assuming you mean issues with our editors (either the windows text control or scintilla editor widget) that are often based on specific regional settings (specifically for non-unicode programs) on windows due to character mapping differences.

I've had to work this issue on several occasions for different regional settings.

I can't remember off the top of my head, are you on active support with Instantiations?  If so, please send in a support request and I'll put an engineer on it.

Does anyone knows how to remove deleted methods (those, shown in Methods->Available... menu)?
From what I can see, there is no purge capability for compiled methods. Actions like renaming the class
or moving it to a different application will effectively do this because it creates new ENVY class records, but it doesn't
get rid of them.  Selective export out to a different manager will tend to get rid of a lot of these also.

- Seth

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 11:48:54 AM UTC-4, <a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="7rgwRmIFAwAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">ipstools...@... wrote:

Dear Instantiations,

1. Are there any plans to fix codepage bugs? For example, I use Windows 10 with codepage 1251, which produces characters as on the pictures. The VA version is 9.1.0.

2. Does anyone knows how to remove deleted methods (those, shown in Methods->Available... menu)?

Regards,

Sergei.

Greetings Sergei,

Even without a support license, something we can do is submit a bug report on your behalf.

We can't promise to put any engineering resources on it at the moment, but at least it would be documented in our bug tracking system and associated with other code page related cases.

This will increase the likelihood that we will address it.

If you would like to do this, please send an email to <a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="_v52EEpWAwAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">vast-s...@instantiations.com
Also described at: <a href="http://www.instantiations.com/support/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Findex.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGGw04GI16xmmbWK1cvMJHFb9v4_g&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fsupport%2Findex.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGGw04GI16xmmbWK1cvMJHFb9v4_g&#39;;return true;">http://www.instantiations.com/support/index.html

We will need some more information like

What version of vast (including bitness) 32 or 64-bit?

What are your regional settings..locale?  (see attached)

The System Transcript uses a windows text control
A workspace uses a scintilla widget.

These are very different.

So please give us a detailed description so we can try and repeat the problem
For example, what exact keys are your pressing and what do they show.

If you can come up with a small step-by-step scenario, that would help us a lot.

Thanks Sergei,

-- Seth

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:11:01 AM UTC-4, Seth Berman wrote:

Greetings Sergei,

Certainly glad you are here.

If you are an open-source committer, you can qualify to get one of our open-source licenses.

Doing something for <a href="http://vastgoodies.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fvastgoodies.com\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHxjcEL5lPg-RJkLXxK7FrDTlALcw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fvastgoodies.com\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHxjcEL5lPg-RJkLXxK7FrDTlALcw&#39;;return true;">vastgoodies.com is always appreciated;)

<a href="http://www.instantiations.com/company/open-source.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fcompany%2Fopen-source.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGTlBimHadtjJnHTWq12HI110rhrw&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.instantiations.com%2Fcompany%2Fopen-source.html\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGTlBimHadtjJnHTWq12HI110rhrw&#39;;return true;">Click here for more information if your interested.

-- Seth

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:48:38 AM UTC-4, <a href="javascript:" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="_v52EEpWAwAJ" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">ipstools...@... wrote:

Hi Seth,

I don`t own a paid version of VA Smalltalk, just in process of learning it, for my pleasure. Nevertheless, thank you for the answer, I`m starting to save up money for future buy :))

воскресенье, 30 сентября 2018 г., 21:50:36 UTC+3 пользователь Seth Berman написал:

Greetings Sergei,

Are there any plans to fix codepage bugs?

We fixed a lot of codepage bugs in 9.1.0, so yes...we fix codepage bugs:)

In this case, I'm assuming you mean issues with our editors (either the windows text control or scintilla editor widget) that are often based on specific regional settings (specifically for non-unicode programs) on windows due to character mapping differences.

I've had to work this issue on several occasions for different regional settings.

I can't remember off the top of my head, are you on active support with Instantiations?  If so, please send in a support request and I'll put an engineer on it.

Does anyone knows how to remove deleted methods (those, shown in Methods->Available... menu)?
From what I can see, there is no purge capability for compiled methods. Actions like renaming the class
or moving it to a different application will effectively do this because it creates new ENVY class records, but it doesn't
get rid of them.  Selective export out to a different manager will tend to get rid of a lot of these also.

- Seth

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 11:48:54 AM UTC-4, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear Instantiations,

1. Are there any plans to fix codepage bugs? For example, I use Windows 10 with codepage 1251, which produces characters as on the pictures. The VA version is 9.1.0.

2. Does anyone knows how to remove deleted methods (those, shown in Methods->Available... menu)?

Regards,

Sergei.