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Re: Etoys networking

Edward Mokurai Cherlin
On Thu, September 20, 2012 12:42 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

> On 2012-09-20, at 18:27, Edward Mokurai Cherlin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, September 20, 2012 7:56 am, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2012-09-19, at 19:24, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Badge
>>>>> Fridge
>>>>> NebraskaServer
>>>> These are all of a etoys networking experiment.
>>>> I do not think they are of much use to students unless they are
>>>> enhanced quite a bit
>>>
>>> They are used in Sugar for collaboration. On other platforms they are
>>> too
>>> hard to use in a classroom, agreed, because you have to type in IP
>>> addresses manually. It would need some equivalent of Sugar's "presence
>>> service" to easily connect to peers.
>>
>> The conclusion seems to be that they should not be exposed in the
>> Object Catalog. Is that right? Can we hide them?
>
> They are already hidden, since they do not appear in any category.

They are not hidden. They appear in the alphabetical listing, where
every devoted and systematic discoverer will come upon them and be
baffled.

Can't help it. I'm a born lever-puller.

Ringo, Yellow Submarine

>> May I put your comment in the manual as an explanation of why there is
>> no explanation of these objects? ^_^
>
>
> Or an explanation how they work.

That would be fine, if I had one, or if somebody who did volunteered
to write it.

> But mentioning them is a good idea, since
> people may stumble upon them like you did.
>
> - Bert -
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Re: Etoys networking

Bert Freudenberg

On 2012-09-20, at 18:47, Edward Mokurai Cherlin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Thu, September 20, 2012 12:42 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On 2012-09-20, at 18:27, Edward Mokurai Cherlin <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, September 20, 2012 7:56 am, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-09-19, at 19:24, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Badge
>>>>>> Fridge
>>>>>> NebraskaServer
>>>>> These are all of a etoys networking experiment.
>>>>> I do not think they are of much use to students unless they are
>>>>> enhanced quite a bit
>>>>
>>>> They are used in Sugar for collaboration. On other platforms they are
>>>> too
>>>> hard to use in a classroom, agreed, because you have to type in IP
>>>> addresses manually. It would need some equivalent of Sugar's "presence
>>>> service" to easily connect to peers.
>>>
>>> The conclusion seems to be that they should not be exposed in the
>>> Object Catalog. Is that right? Can we hide them?
>>
>> They are already hidden, since they do not appear in any category.
>
> They are not hidden. They appear in the alphabetical listing, where
> every devoted and systematic discoverer will come upon them and be
> baffled.

Bafflement is a good trigger for learning, right? ;)

If something is not in any category, we consider it hidden.

- Bert -

> Can't help it. I'm a born lever-puller.
>
> Ringo, Yellow Submarine
>
>>> May I put your comment in the manual as an explanation of why there is
>>> no explanation of these objects? ^_^
>>
>>
>> Or an explanation how they work.
>
> That would be fine, if I had one, or if somebody who did volunteered
> to write it.
>
>> But mentioning them is a good idea, since
>> people may stumble upon them like you did.
>>
>> - Bert -
>> _______________________________________________
>> etoys-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev
>
>
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> Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin
> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks
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