Re: Fwd: [Vm-dev] Fwd: Compiling a Squeak VM, for Pharo on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server (64bit)

   Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:07:43 -0100
   From: Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>
   Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Vm-dev] Fwd: Compiling a Squeak VM
       for     Pharo on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server (64bit)
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   On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>wrote:



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>     > Date: Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [Vm-dev] Fwd: [Pharo-project] Compiling a Squeak VM for
>     > Pharo on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server (64bit)
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>     > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:14:21PM +0200, Damien Cassou wrote:
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>>     > > From: Dave Woodward <[hidden email]>
>>     > > Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM
>>     > > Subject: [Pharo-project] Compiling a Squeak VM for Pharo on Ubuntu
>>     > > 8.04 LTS Server (64bit)
>>     > > To: [hidden email]
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>>     > >
>>     > > I tried using the pre-compiled VM from the Pharo website to no avail.
>>     > > I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but when running the
>>     > > pre-compiled Pharo VM, OR the pre-compiled Squeak 3.10-6 VM, they just
>>     > > quit with a "File not found" error. ?My only hunch regarding this is
>>     > > that they were compiled on 32bit Linuxes, and I'm using a 64bit Linux.
>>
>     >
>     > A likely guess is that some 32-bit library needs to be installed on the
>     > Linux system in question. The Squeak 3.10-6 VM runs fine on my 64bit
>     > SuSE laptop.
>


   yeah. Dave: could you please try:  sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

   best,

   Mariano




Mariano, I installed the ia32-libs package, and now the binary works
great!  Perhaps there should be a short sentence mentioning this in the
Readme file?  I suppose I should have known since I was on a 64bit
linux... but... I didn't!  Thanks again for everyone's help.

>     >
>
>>     > > I'm using a bare-bones install of Ubuntu server, 8.04LTS 64bit. ?I'm
>>     > > using Slicehost.com for a virtual server to run a Seaside application
>>     > > (they use all 64bit *NIXs), and I'm switching from vanilla Squeak 3.9
>>     > > to Pharo.
>>     > >
>>     > > So, since the Squeak 3.10-6 VM didn't work either I decided to compile
>>     > > my own VM. ?This does not work out of the box on a vanilla Ubuntu
>>     > > Server 8.04 install, so here are the steps I took to successfully
>>     > > compile the VM from the 3.10-6 src files:
>>     > >
>>     > > (cd /Squeak-3.10-6/platforms/unix)
>>     > >
>>     > > Configure:
>>     > > ./config/configure --without-x --without-gl --without-quartz
>>
>     > --without-npsqueak
>
>>     > >
>>     > > NOTE: The configure command adds 2 entries to disable the RomePlugin.
>>     > > It looks like it first tests Freetype (not installed so adds an entry
>>     > > to disable RomePlugin), and then tests Cairo (not installed, so adds
>>     > > *another* entry to disable RomePlugin). ?I believe the autoconf files
>>     > > need to be fixed for this, but I leave it up to the squeak-dev folks
>>     > > to figure that out as I have no knowledge of autoconf.
>>     > >
>>     > > Make:
>>     > > make squeak ?(this will error)
>>     > >
>>     > > To fix the damage from the note above, I had to remove the duplicate
>>     > > entry for RomePlugin_exports on line 22 of disabledPlugins.c.
>>
>     >
>     > Thats a problem of some sort in configure, but note also that RomePlugin
>     > will not work on 64-bit systems (Mantis 7344).
>     >
>     > Dave
>     >
>     >
>     >
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El vie, 07-08-2009 a las 14:10 -0400, Dave Woodward escribió:

>

>
>     yeah. Dave: could you please try:  sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
>
>     best,
>
>     Mariano
>
>
>
>
> Mariano, I installed the ia32-libs package, and now the binary works
> great!  Perhaps there should be a short sentence mentioning this in the
> Readme file?  I suppose I should have known since I was on a 64bit
> linux... but... I didn't!  Thanks again for everyone's help.

Congrats for that improvement but now you have a image that runs ok but
is isolated from the internet. The network isn't working on 64 bit
architecture, even with ia32-libs.

check:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=794
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=961

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>
>
>         Mariano, I installed the ia32-libs package, and now the binary
>         works
>         great!  Perhaps there should be a short sentence mentioning
>         this in the
>         Readme file?  I suppose I should have known since I was on a
>         64bit
>         linux... but... I didn't!  Thanks again for everyone's help.
>
> Excellent!!! Greate news.
>
> Damien:  can we edit once again the readme file and put this?  Perhaps
> SOMETHING as this:
>
> "
> For 64 bits you have two options:
> * Compile the VM by yourself
> * Install 32-libs package from you OS. For example, in Ubuntu you can
> execute 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs'
> "
>
> Anyone has a better message?

In my Debian GNU/Linux 5 (lenny) amd64 I always used the squeak vm
installed from the Debian repos. That vm was already for 64 bits (I
didn't had ia32-libs installed) and everything worked ok.
Maybe another option would be to ask José Luis Redrejo to rebuild a vm
for amd64 and:

1. upload it to debian/ubuntu repos to cover the users that use that
OSes, they only had to download an image and not the vm.
2. upload it to the squeak and pharo sites and put a link to download a
vm for x86 and other for amd64.
3. Generate two zips, one for ia32 and other for amd64 and the user
selects the correct one.
4. put the message that you propose in the zip as a fallback.

What do you think?

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