Hi all, Indeed, the Windows environment is not the one where Pharo is working the best. Last week, I tried to install it on one of my coworker desktop and there was some issues that was solvable with some workarounds, it is temporary and the
windows support will be improved soon: I’m currently working on it, especially on making the Pharo launcher in a read only mode. This way, no administrative privileges will be required to run the launcher. In the meantime, to make the launcher working under Windows:
If you are in a mood to help and contribute to this project (I hope you are!), please report the issues there:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues and feel free to suggest some fixes to them :) And please, keep this thread related to Pharo… Thanks, Vincent Blondeau
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transmission and its attachments without reading them or saving them to disk. Thank you. -----Original Message----- This is what concerns me. I don't care that there are workarounds (undocumented or hard to find). I care that Windows is a most popular development platform. I care that newcomers to Pharo easily find what they need to get started. I care about Pharo's reputation. The last thing Pharo needs is a black eye. Travis Ayres wrote > I wonder how many people tried Pharo, thought "Oh this is totally broken" > and are never going to give it a second (or third) chance. > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 11:26 AM, > phil@ > < > phil@ > > > wrote: > >> The current website shows the wrong link, the installer for the
>> bleeding edge is the wrong one in files. >> The situation on the Windows front is very very bad and not really
>> improving. >> >> That being said, the installer on the CI is the right one and works. >> >> so, steal the installer from here: >>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_phar >> o-2Dci-2D&d=DwICAg&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8KxgfzvOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kI >> ZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY&m=klRHeEtFlmi7VP-TR5D2bSZ_E >> UF1hAdJcuTH4GnReBY&s=xfU91HKFoB5JIZXWRUqBvOkomomuAqWw_gQvBmGRwiw&e= >> jenkins2/job/PharoLauncher >> >> This is the one you want: >> >>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_phar >> o-2Dci-2Djenkins2_job_PharoLauncher_&d=DwICAg&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8Kxgfz >> vOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kIZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY& >> m=klRHeEtFlmi7VP-TR5D2bSZ_EUF1hAdJcuTH4GnReBY&s=TsRgHOYVLDp0q9g8BzEb8 >> s8yLy_v32DEMOxtvIcvTOg&e= >> >> For having the latest lastet everything, go to the launcher settings,
>> get into the devmode and open monticello and load the latest packages. >> >> Phil |
Do you need more smalltalkers on your team who have real-time control experience? I would love to contribute. I agree more windows support is needed My linked in profile is at https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanglazier Sean Glazier On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 3:29 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Vincent Many thanks – at last a clear explanation of how to get it going. I tried this with the Launcher I downloaded yesterday, and was able to launch the template versions of Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7. The only problem was that I am not familiar with the Launcher interface, and I had to search around to open the settings menu – but that was my stupidity. Plus I *hate* the dark theme – but that’s just my weird taste. So going back to the original post in this thread, with this tweak the Launcher is not broken as regards actually launching images. I have not checked whether it is possible to uninstall it, as I found it was not possible yesterday and Petr Fischer also had difficulty with. At present I do not *want* to uninstall it, so that’s OK. All my tests on Windows 10 with all recent updates, on a 64-bit Intel Core i3 processor. Hope this helps Peter Kenny From: Pharo-users <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of [hidden email] Hi all, Indeed, the Windows environment is not the one where Pharo is working the best. Last week, I tried to install it on one of my coworker desktop and there was some issues that was solvable with some workarounds, it is temporary and the windows support will be improved soon: I’m currently working on it, especially on making the Pharo launcher in a read only mode. This way, no administrative privileges will be required to run the launcher. In the meantime, to make the launcher working under Windows:
If you are in a mood to help and contribute to this project (I hope you are!), please report the issues there: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues and feel free to suggest some fixes to them :) And please, keep this thread related to Pharo… Thanks, Vincent Blondeau
NOTICE: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading them or saving them to disk. Thank you. -----Original Message----- This is what concerns me. I don't care that there are workarounds (undocumented or hard to find). I care that Windows is a most popular development platform. I care that newcomers to Pharo easily find what they need to get started. I care about Pharo's reputation. The last thing Pharo needs is a black eye. Travis Ayres wrote > I wonder how many people tried Pharo, thought "Oh this is totally broken" > and are never going to give it a second (or third) chance. > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 11:26 AM, > phil@ > < > phil@ > > > wrote: > >> The current website shows the wrong link, the installer for the >> bleeding edge is the wrong one in files. >> The situation on the Windows front is very very bad and not really >> improving. >> >> That being said, the installer on the CI is the right one and works. >> >> so, steal the installer from here: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_phar >> o-2Dci-2D&d=DwICAg&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8KxgfzvOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kI >> ZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY&m=klRHeEtFlmi7VP-TR5D2bSZ_E >> UF1hAdJcuTH4GnReBY&s=xfU91HKFoB5JIZXWRUqBvOkomomuAqWw_gQvBmGRwiw&e= >> jenkins2/job/PharoLauncher >> >> This is the one you want: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_phar >> o-2Dci-2Djenkins2_job_PharoLauncher_&d=DwICAg&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8Kxgfz >> vOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kIZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY& >> m=klRHeEtFlmi7VP-TR5D2bSZ_EUF1hAdJcuTH4GnReBY&s=TsRgHOYVLDp0q9g8BzEb8 >> s8yLy_v32DEMOxtvIcvTOg&e= >> >> For having the latest lastet everything, go to the launcher settings, >> get into the devmode and open monticello and load the latest packages. >> >> Phil |
From: Pharo-users [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of PBKResearch Vincent Many thanks – at last a clear explanation of how to get it going. I tried this with the Launcher I downloaded yesterday, and was able to launch the template versions of Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.
The only problem was that I am not familiar with the Launcher interface, and I had to search around to open the settings menu – but that was my stupidity. Plus I *hate* the dark theme – but that’s just my weird taste. Thanks Peter! Maybe, we could add a settings in the pharo launcher options to change the theme. I invite you to open a bug for this ;) So going back to the original post in this thread, with this tweak the Launcher is not broken as regards actually launching images. I have not checked whether it is possible to uninstall it, as
I found it was not possible yesterday and Petr Fischer also had difficulty with. At present I do not *want* to uninstall it, so that’s OK. AFAIK, the uninstall does not delete all the files. I have not tested it yet, but it will be the next step! All my tests on Windows 10 with all recent updates, on a 64-bit Intel Core i3 processor. Hope this helps Thanks, Vincent Blondeau Peter Kenny From: Pharo-users <[hidden email]>
On Behalf Of [hidden email] Hi all, Indeed, the Windows environment is not the one where Pharo is working the best. Last week, I tried to install it on one of my coworker desktop and there was some issues that was solvable with some workarounds,
it is temporary and the windows support will be improved soon: I’m currently working on it, especially on making the Pharo launcher in a read only mode. This way, no administrative privileges will be required to run the launcher. In the meantime, to make the launcher working under Windows:
1.
Run with administrative privileges
2.
Uncheck: If you are in a mood to help and contribute to this project (I hope you are!), please report the issues there:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues
and feel free to suggest some fixes to them :) And please, keep this thread related to Pharo… Thanks, Vincent Blondeau
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you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender and destroy
the original transmission and its attachments without reading them or saving them to disk. Thank you. -----Original Message----- This is what concerns me. I don't care that there are workarounds (undocumented or hard to find). I care that Windows is a most popular development platform. I care that newcomers to Pharo easily find what they need to get started. I care about Pharo's reputation. The last thing Pharo needs is a black eye. Travis Ayres wrote > I wonder how many people tried Pharo, thought "Oh this is totally broken" > and are never going to give it a second (or third) chance. > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 11:26 AM, > phil@ > < > phil@ > > > wrote: > >> The current website shows the wrong link, the installer for the
>> bleeding edge is the wrong one in files. >> The situation on the Windows front is very very bad and not really
>> improving. >> >> That being said, the installer on the CI is the right one and works. >> >> so, steal the installer from here:
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_phar >> o-2Dci-2D&d=DwICAg&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8KxgfzvOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kI >> ZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY&m=klRHeEtFlmi7VP-TR5D2bSZ_E >> UF1hAdJcuTH4GnReBY&s=xfU91HKFoB5JIZXWRUqBvOkomomuAqWw_gQvBmGRwiw&e= >> jenkins2/job/PharoLauncher >> >> This is the one you want: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_phar >> o-2Dci-2Djenkins2_job_PharoLauncher_&d=DwICAg&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8Kxgfz >> vOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kIZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY& >> m=klRHeEtFlmi7VP-TR5D2bSZ_EUF1hAdJcuTH4GnReBY&s=TsRgHOYVLDp0q9g8BzEb8 >> s8yLy_v32DEMOxtvIcvTOg&e= >> >> For having the latest lastet everything, go to the launcher settings,
>> get into the devmode and open monticello and load the latest packages. >> >> Phil |
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From: Pharo-users [mailto:[hidden email]]
On Behalf Of Sean Glazier Do you need more smalltalkers on your team who have real-time control experience?
Hi Sean, I have no information about that. One thing you can do is to contact Chris Thorgrimsson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-thorgrimsson-33734325/).
He will be more knowledgeable to help you. I am working in his team. I would love to contribute. I agree more windows support is needed What you can do is pick any issue here:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues
And here is the project to package the applications that I plan to use on the launcher:
https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser
Feel free to submit PRs or new issues! Thanks! Vincent Blondeau My linked in profile is at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanglazier Sean Glazier On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 3:29 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
-- Kind Regards, Sean Glazier |
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