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Re: Interest in iPhone interface? - but only if for more than just iPhone

Frank-B
Hello,

Yes, as long as this is not limited to an exotic and most questionable company like Apple - we are targeting B2B users and not the posh nice little boys and girls who must wear the latest overpriced and monoplized toys. In Europe, the toy company Apple is certainly not in serious business.

We have a mid-range communicator project planned to be available later throughout 2008, which is meant both as an enhancement to our portal websites as well as to our desktop sotware (all in Smalltalk VW5). It is supposed to cover (in sequence of importance):
- Jabber based IM system
- Email client with integrated doc archive system
- Linked with our text archive and help system (almost finished) to refer to standard text modules
- White label VoIP system with protocol functionality in the doc archive system (exists from third party)
- All in one concise user interface in Seaside and on the desktop
- Integrated doc archive system as a central repository for all forms of communication, which essentially already exists
- To be extended / interfaced later to a CRP system.

If anybody is interested, you are most welcome to co-operate.

If limited to Apple we are not interested.

Best regards
Frank

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RE: Interest in iPhone interface? - but only if for more than just iPhone

Sebastian Sastre-2
Hi Frank,

        to make the app consise for desktop *and* mobile devices is really a
challenge. I can't think in that withou remaking to adapt almost all
components to those little screens in mobile devices. The domain model will
be 100% shared the presentation domain will be near zero and is the is the
most heavy cost this days.

        Ofcourse we can wait vendors develop cheap holographic screens of
cubic 19" for mobile devices but that will take some time :)

        Have you ideas about how to achieve something acceptable today that
does not imply an entire rebuild of the presentation domain?

        cheers,

Sebastian Sastre


 

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> Enviado el: Viernes, 18 de Enero de 2008 07:24
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> Asunto: Re: [Seaside] Interest in iPhone interface? - but
> only if for more than just iPhone
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes, as long as this is not limited to an exotic and most
> questionable company like Apple - we are targeting B2B users
> and not the posh nice little boys and girls who must wear the
> latest overpriced and monoplized toys. In Europe, the toy
> company Apple is certainly not in serious business.
>
> We have a mid-range communicator project planned to be
> available later throughout 2008, which is meant both as an
> enhancement to our portal websites as well as to our desktop
> sotware (all in Smalltalk VW5). It is supposed to cover (in
> sequence of importance):
> - Jabber based IM system
> - Email client with integrated doc archive system
> - Linked with our text archive and help system (almost
> finished) to refer to standard text modules
> - White label VoIP system with protocol functionality in the
> doc archive system (exists from third party)
> - All in one concise user interface in Seaside and on the desktop
> - Integrated doc archive system as a central repository for
> all forms of communication, which essentially already exists
> - To be extended / interfaced later to a CRP system.
>
> If anybody is interested, you are most welcome to co-operate.
>
> If limited to Apple we are not interested.
>
> Best regards
> Frank
>
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Re: Interest in iPhone interface? - but only if for more than just iPhone

Esteban A. Maringolo
For desk apps, you should also consider Fluid and Prism.

Fluid (Mac): http://fluidapp.com/
Prism (Win): http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/

Best regards,

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Re: Interest in iPhone interface? - but only if for more than just iPhone

Adrian Lienhard
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On Jan 18, 2008, at 13:20 , Sebastian Sastre wrote:

> Hi Frank,
>
> to make the app consise for desktop *and* mobile devices is really a
> challenge. I can't think in that withou remaking to adapt almost all
> components to those little screens in mobile devices. The domain  
> model will
> be 100% shared the presentation domain will be near zero and is the  
> is the
> most heavy cost this days.
>
> Ofcourse we can wait vendors develop cheap holographic screens of
> cubic 19" for mobile devices but that will take some time :)
>
> Have you ideas about how to achieve something acceptable today that
> does not imply an entire rebuild of the presentation domain?

Has anybody experience with approaches like wurfl/wall (there exist  
libraries for PHP and Java)? The idea basically is to write html and  
then automatically generate output depending on the capabilities of  
the mobile device. This shouldn't be too hard to implement in Seaside  
(e.g., by porting wall from PHP) but I don't have experience with how  
well this generic approach works in practice...

Cheers,
Adrian
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