Re: [Metacello] Unable to load tODE

Alexandre,

I find myself hitting CMD-S now and then as well:)

At one point I was mapping all of the standard Pharo shortcut keys and then discovered that Safari pretty much had already defined meanings for most of the short-cut keys ... I understood that there are ways to subvert the standard browser mappings, but I decided that I'd hold off on adding shortcut keys till a later date ....

I look forward to meeting you again in person next week ... when are you arriving?

Dale

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Alexandre Bergel" <[hidden email]>
| To: [hidden email]
| Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:52:21 PM
| Subject: Re: [Metacello] Unable to load tODE
|
| > You add a new class by selecting the class tab, then clicking on
| > the 'class definition' button, then editing and saving the class
| > definition.
|
| Ok. I kind of miss the tab key and the Cmd-s keystroke. I use Safari.
| Looking forward to see your demo next week.
|
| Cheers,
| Alexandre
|
| >
| > The code is pretty stable I will stop doing development on 0.1
| > pretty soon now (post-ESUG)... the tight coupling of the UI and
| > command code makes it difficult to write unit tests ... the only
| > way I know of to do that today is to use something like Selenium
| > and even though there are Smalltalk tools for using Selenium, it
| > is way more tedious than I prefer ... it's another of the reasons
| > I stopped adding new tools ...
| >
| > Yes, I am excited about tODE as well it seems to feel right ...
| > there are a couple of challenges to be resolved before you don't
| > have to rely on occasional direct access to the image, but I think
| > the challenges are solvable...
| >
| > BTW, I've cross-posted to the tODE mailing list[2].
| >
| > Dale
| >
| > [1] http://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/a-peek-at-tode/
| > [2] http://groups.google.com/group/tode_st
| >
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > | From: "Alexandre Bergel" <[hidden email]>
| > | To: [hidden email]
| > | Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:30:00 AM
| > | Subject: Re: [Metacello] Unable to load tODE
| > |
| > | I gave a 5 minutes try, but I quickly bump into some issues:
| > | - How can I load Mondrian, stored in squeaksource.com/Mondrian ?
| > | Apparently the set of repository is fixed isn't it? How can I add
| > | a
| > | new one?
| > |
| > | - on the first page, I see "tOde operations:" I guess it should
| > | be
| > | tODE
| > |
| > | - How can I create a new class? I had a look at the video, but it
| > | mentions cloning a class, not creating one from scratch
| > |
| > | How stable is tode? How far are you from getting rid of the
| > | morphic
| > | environment?
| > | I believe you definitely go in the right direction. Ideally, I
| > | would
| > | like to be able to program without having the vm installed on my
| > | machine, as on an ipad or in a cybercafe.
| > | tODE looks like to be what I was waiting for to build an exporter
| > | to
| > | html5.
| > |
| > | Thanks for providing a one click image. I am enthusiast about
| > | tODE.
| > |
| > | Cheers,
| > | Alexandre
| > |
| > | On 12 Aug 2011, at 20:11, Dale Henrichs wrote:
| > |
| > | > Alexandre,
| > | >
| > | > I've created a tODE-OneClick image based on the
| > | > Seaside3.0.5-OneClick[1] and a short youTube video[2].
| > | >
| > | > Alex, I think you should play with the configuration editting
| > | > tools
| > | > (MetacelloBrowser functionality embedded in tODE) ... I'm not
| > | > completely happy with the UI, but it is heading in the
| > | > direction
| > | > that I want ...
| > | >
| > | > Dale
| > | >
| > | > [1] http://seaside.gemstone.com/tODE/tODE-0.1-OneClick.zip
| > | > [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGkdXwGtfd8
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | From: "Alexandre Bergel" <[hidden email]>
| > | > | To: [hidden email]
| > | > | Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:37:56 PM
| > | > | Subject: Re: [Metacello] Unable to load tODE
| > | > |
| > | > | Cool!
| > | > | Dale, maybe you can add some screenshots somewhere?
| > | > |
| > | > | Looking forward to see your presentation.
| > | > |
| > | > | Cheers,
| > | > | Alexandre
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | On 11 Aug 2011, at 17:27, Dale Henrichs wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > I will be talking about/demoing tODE at ESUG, so I've been
| > | > | > pretty
| > | > | > much heads down on getting tODE to a relatively stable
| > | > | > point,
| > | > | > before publicizing it too much:)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Dale
| > | > | >
| > | > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | > | From: "Lukas Renggli" <[hidden email]>
| > | > | > | To: [hidden email]
| > | > | > | Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:11:55 PM
| > | > | > | Subject: [Metacello] Unable to load tODE
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Hi Dale,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I learned about tODE today and it sounds really
| > | > | > | intriguing. I
| > | > | > | also
| > | > | > | like the license :-)
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I tried to load it tODE a clean Pharo 1.3 image using
| > | > | > | Metacello
| > | > | > | following the scripts on
| > | > | > | "http://code.google.com/p/tode/".
| > | > | > | Unfortunately I immediately get an error about a
| > | > | > | configuration
| > | > | > | that
| > | > | > | cannot be found:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |   MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
| > | > | > |   #stable
| > | > | > |   of
| > | > | > | ConfigurationOfSeaside30
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Do I have to load the dependencies manually?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Lukas
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