Re: Most wanted programming language:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

Smalltalk ... hmmm .... are Smalltalkers sure to realize whats ging on in the world?

Have fun, Guido Stepken

Dennis Schetinin <[hidden email]> writes:

> Yes, we do: the (outer) world is getting worse and worse :)
No not really. See there is Objective-C in fifth place. That is not too
bad. JavaScript is up also and that is very much a Smalltalk in
disguise. I'd just would appreciate if Smalltalk was at least among the
first 10. At least that would be deserved. Anyway if you see Smalltalk
as "idea" supplier for Object-oriented languages, one can see that OO
really rules. Down to Transact-SQL all the languages offer more or less
support for OO-programming. Some even claim to be object-oriented ;-)

There is not one language among the first 15 which does not offer
anything about OO. See even Visual Basic uses it.

Well it's not that this may all too much, but it's still obvious. OO is
currently the "way to go".

I for my part would appreciate some more support for functional
languages. But to some extend all of them at least support it
partially. What is astonishing is the rank of R.  That I think can be
seen as "unexpected".


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On 10 January 2012 14:25, Guido Stepken <[hidden email]> wrote:
> While deciders still reflect upon what programming language and framework to
> use, thinking about Java, .NET ... , Google and Apple have set new standards
> by pushing LLVM, V8, Webkit, node.js with a tremendous amount of money to
> perfection.
>
> Look at this example:
>
> http://monocle.inventivelabs.com.au/books/dubliners
>
> An epub reader object, good example for "ambient oriended programming". The
> reader behaves like an native app, independent on architecture, processor
> and os, touch, nontouch. Simply runs in every browser. And browser has
> javascript language bindings to all hardware, GPS, barometer, wifi, GSM,
> touch interface, mouse, cam .... if available.
>
> Porting PHARO onto Amber makes sense for me. Nothing else. COGVM, browser
> plugin, touch interface, portability discussion finished! IMHO the only
> chance for Smalltalk to come to new life.
>
when you want to get fast somewhere you can always rent a car if you
don't have one.
but it will be very hard to convince car-rent provider to give you a
specific car, which
suits most for your needs. Because for rented cars you usually pretty
limited in choice of features available.
That's the main reason between having own VM and being able to
directly control its features,
and just running on rent car.

> regards, Guido Stepken
>
> Am 10.01.2012 09:29 schrieb "Friedrich Dominicus"
> <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Dennis Schetinin <[hidden email]> writes:
>>
>> > Yes, we do: the (outer) world is getting worse and worse :)
>> No not really. See there is Objective-C in fifth place. That is not too
>> bad. JavaScript is up also and that is very much a Smalltalk in
>> disguise. I'd just would appreciate if Smalltalk was at least among the
>> first 10. At least that would be deserved. Anyway if you see Smalltalk
>> as "idea" supplier for Object-oriented languages, one can see that OO
>> really rules. Down to Transact-SQL all the languages offer more or less
>> support for OO-programming. Some even claim to be object-oriented ;-)
>>
>> There is not one language among the first 15 which does not offer
>> anything about OO. See even Visual Basic uses it.
>>
>> Well it's not that this may all too much, but it's still obvious. OO is
>> currently the "way to go".
>>
>> I for my part would appreciate some more support for functional
>> languages. But to some extend all of them at least support it
>> partially. What is astonishing is the rank of R.  That I think can be
>> seen as "unexpected".
>>
>>
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Dennis Schetinin <[hidden email]> writes:

> Yes, we do: the (outer) world is getting worse and worse :)

No not really. See there is Objective-C in fifth place. That is not too
bad. JavaScript is up also and that is very much a Smalltalk in
disguise. I'd just would appreciate if Smalltalk was at least among the
first 10. At least that would be deserved. Anyway if you see Smalltalk
as "idea" supplier for Object-oriented languages, one can see that OO
really rules. Down to Transact-SQL all the languages offer more or less
support for OO-programming. Some even claim to be object-oriented ;-)

There is not one language among the first 15 which does not offer
anything about OO. See even Visual Basic uses it.

Well it's not that this may all too much, but it's still obvious. OO is
currently the "way to go".

I for my part would appreciate some more support for functional
languages. But to some extend all of them at least support it
partially. What is astonishing is the rank of R.  That I think can be
seen as "unexpected".


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