Hi Stef,
Thanks for this email. Spec 2 really looks great. It is also great to foresee an integration of Bloc/Brick in Pharo. Cheers, Alexandre > On May 2, 2019, at 5:27 AM, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Dear Pharoers > > We would like to explain what is Spec 2.0 and how Bloc is on the Pharo roadmap. > > Spec is a way to support a way to express and reuse application interaction logic. > Spec was first developed by Benjamin van Ryseghem and others while supervised > by Stéphane Ducasse. > Over the years we cleaned Spec, but we never took the time to really revisit it, and Spec > was never stressed outside the scope of Pharo tools (even if there is some people who > used it in their projects, this was not the general case). There was a need to deeply rethink > the way we express and reuse interaction application logic. > > Spec 2.0 revisits fundamentally Spec. The consortium wants to acknowledge the strong financial > support of Schmidt in this new development. Here is a list of points we are working on to support companies > to build modern applications with Pharo. > > - adding support for many widgets and at the same time improving existing widgets such as fasttable > - adds much better layouts (we will deprecate the interpreter design) > - introducing a new way to architecture an application: > Spec20 introduces the notion of application to better handle resources and window flow > - revisiting the internal logic of Spec (to remove useless parts and enhance the ones that works) > - adding many tests > > In addition we want that Spec 2.0 is not tight anymore with Morphic. > Why? Because we want to make sure that: > - companies can deploy desktop applications > - we can reuse all the tools logic of Pharo with new widgets sets such as Brick (widgets on top of Bloc) > without having to rewrite everything. > > This is why Spec2.0 can optionally render using Gtk3.0. It also means that in the future we can have native widgets. > > Now that Bloc/Brick is finally reaching a point where it can be tried and eventually adopted, we want to > make sure the transition to it will not force us to throw away the tools we developed last ten years. > We think that Bloc needs some effort to clean and structure it and Spec2.0 gives the time to let Bloc and Brick > mature. Also, we want to make sure that in the future we will be able to adopt other backends in case we > decide it (Remember new now is old tomorrow and while Bloc/Brick is new and modern, it will not remain > new and modern forever). > > Brick needs to be ready for Pharo consumption, and to make it possible we need to move the image to converge. > With Spec 2.0, in future versions we will just need to define a new backend to get all our tools working. > > The Pharo Board > > > |
Stef, Exciting news all around. Is this s good opportunity to revisit theming? I made a good attempt to wrap my head around themes about a year ago or so, but it's quite complex. If now's not (understandably) the time, how will themes work with this new multiple-backend approach? On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:45 AM Alexandre Bergel via Pharo-users <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Stef, -- Eric |
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