Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal visualizing a corner of the Universe

> Well then my hat off to you sir
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> I am asking because rendering graphics is certainly an expensive (CPU and RAM) process. Rendering graphics is certainly something that interests me.
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> Of course I dont expect Pharo to compete with C , but then thats why we have Nativeboost. But I would love to see Roassal evolve to a full blown graphics engine. Certainly motivates me more to learn Roassal as deeply as I can. I remember when you first said I should use Roassal for my vector editor , I was quite sceptical. But seeing all these new apps pop up from real scientists made me think twice and now I have put my vector editor on hold to learn more about Pharo and Roassal and of course Moose.
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> Would love to help you document it further. Though for now I am learning it in a very slow pace. Congrats to you and all people involved with the libraries and of course to the people making the apps. You certainly changed my mind and I would love to see more apps that show the potential of these libraries.
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> I am also wondering if you are so ambitious whether porting C libraries like imagmagick would make sense for Roassal.
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> http://www.imagemagick.org/
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> Or possibly other C graphics libraries.
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> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The picture is rendered in Roassal, but raw data is obtained from a file.
> AstroCloud, an application made on top of Roassal, does some sophisticated color mapping and transformation.
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> Alexandre
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> On May 6, 2014, at 12:40 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > beautiful, I am a huge fan of astronomy and sci fi. Is the image of the galaxy rendered with Roassal or is it just an image file that Roassal is displaying ?
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> > On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi!
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> > We’ve just added a new post that contains nice screenshots and (short) explanation about galaxies.
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> > https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/628687443884523?stream_ref=10
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> > Faviola is doing a truly fantastic work.
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> > Cheers,
> > Alexandre
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> Just to give a bit more context about why we are doing AstroCloud. ALMA is
> the largest observatory on Earth, making it the largest astronomical project
> in existence (http://www.almaobservatory.org). This is what humanity has
> best to detect life outside Earth.
> ALMA is made of 66 high-precision antenas making it possible to see deep in
> the universe. Unfortunately, there is no good software to process these
> immensely complex pictures. Some tool suite naturally exist, but they were
> not made for ALMA, making these existing tools largely suboptimal to process
> complex picture of ALMA.
> Faviola’s dream (and mine) is to produce a tool ready to be consumed by
> astronomers to process ALMA pictures. Faviola and I are currently seeking
> for additional resources on making this happen.

> Interesting project, Alexandre!
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> On 5/6/14, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks Kilon for your nice words.
>> Currently, AstroCloud is a bit slow. For example, loading this image takes
>> much more than it should. For now, speed is not our priority. AstroCloud has
>> to be fast and we will make it fast. Probably relying on external library is
>> the way to go.
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> I assume you consider or have considered NativeBoost as well?
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>> Just to give a bit more context about why we are doing AstroCloud. ALMA is
>> the largest observatory on Earth, making it the largest astronomical project
>> in existence (http://www.almaobservatory.org). This is what humanity has
>> best to detect life outside Earth.
>> ALMA is made of 66 high-precision antenas making it possible to see deep in
>> the universe. Unfortunately, there is no good software to process these
>> immensely complex pictures. Some tool suite naturally exist, but they were
>> not made for ALMA, making these existing tools largely suboptimal to process
>> complex picture of ALMA.
>> Faviola’s dream (and mine) is to produce a tool ready to be consumed by
>> astronomers to process ALMA pictures. Faviola and I are currently seeking
>> for additional resources on making this happen.
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>> Regarding your help about documenting Roassal. It is very welcome! In one of
>> my previous post, I said that 2014 will be the year of documenting Roassal.
>> A book is on its way.
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>> We will need people to review it. So thanks!
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> Preview of part of it on line?
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> Regards
> Hannes
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