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Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

Tobias Pape
Btw: anyone eager to try out
SqueakSource3 ?
It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.

So Long,
        -Tobias

Am 2011-04-20 um 08:13 schrieb laurent laffont:

> Laurent


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Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

Andreas.Raab
On 4/20/2011 10:59, Tobias Pape wrote:
> Btw: anyone eager to try out SqueakSource3?

Is there an instance running somewhere?

Cheers,
   - Andreas

> It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
>
> So Long,
> -Tobias
>
> Am 2011-04-20 um 08:13 schrieb laurent laffont:
>
>> Laurent
>
>
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Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

Tobias Pape
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Am 2011-04-20 um 11:30 schrieb Torsten Bergmann:

>> SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
>
> Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features
> of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
>
>> Btw: anyone eager to try out
>> SqueakSource3 ?
>> It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
>
> Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post
> a script for people to load and try?
>

Gofer new
        squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
        package: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakSource';
        load.
((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakSource) project version: #development) load.

I've yet to test whether it works in Pharo at all,
however, I tried to focus on portability.
I would be happy with any feedback :)

So Long,
        -Tobias
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Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

garduino
Hi Tobias:

Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new
features of Squeaksource3?

I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with
some sort of data replication (only ideas
at the moment).

Thanks

2011/4/20 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]>:

>
> Am 2011-04-20 um 11:30 schrieb Torsten Bergmann:
>
>>> SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down
>>
>> Yes, it looks like SmalltalkHub replaces all features
>> of squeaksource and mimicks also the down behavior ;)
>>
>>> Btw: anyone eager to try out
>>> SqueakSource3 ?
>>> It is available as and alpha Metacello Config.
>>
>> Does it work with Pharo 1.2 already? Could you post
>> a script for people to load and try?
>>
>
> Gofer new
>        squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>        package: 'ConfigurationOfSqueakSource';
>        load.
> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSqueakSource) project version: #development) load.
>
> I've yet to test whether it works in Pharo at all,
> however, I tried to focus on portability.
> I would be happy with any feedback :)
>
> So Long,
>        -Tobias
>



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Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

Tobias Pape

Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:

> Hi Tobias:
>
> Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new
> features of Squeaksource3?
>
> I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with
> some sort of data replication (only ideas
> at the moment).
>
Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:

> Hi Tobias:
>
> Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new
> features of Squeaksource3?
>
> I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with
> some sort of data replication (only ideas
> at the moment).


I have not implemented replication yet, but it is
high on my list.

There are no _really_ distinct features
but in contrast to the oriiginal SqueakSource and
SqueakSource 2,
• runs on Seaside3.0 and Magritte 2
• is highly aimed to run on GemStone
• includes a basic Issue tracking implemented by Dale Henrichs

I integrated the features that were ‘lurking around’ ,
eg, in the source.squeak.org instance. So the recently added
direct access to diffs between versions as either .diff or .cs
is available in SqueakSource3, too.

My highest aim was to improve extensibility, to allow drop-ins
to extend squeaksource or to have a minimal one.
For example, you can load the mare minimum of SqueakSource without
even the ability to store versions to disk
or have a full-featured SqueakSource that
also includes Statistics, IssueTracking and (email) notification.

I hope that helps imagine the SqueakSource3 :)

So Long,
        -Tobias
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Re: [Seaside] Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

garduino
2011/4/20 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]>:

>
> Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:
>
>> Hi Tobias:
>>
>> Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new
>> features of Squeaksource3?
>>
>> I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with
>> some sort of data replication (only ideas
>> at the moment).
>
>
> I have not implemented replication yet, but it is
> high on my list.
>
> There are no _really_ distinct features
> but in contrast to the oriiginal SqueakSource and
> SqueakSource 2,
> • runs on Seaside3.0 and Magritte 2
> • is highly aimed to run on GemStone
> • includes a basic Issue tracking implemented by Dale Henrichs
>
> I integrated the features that were ‘lurking around’ ,
> eg, in the source.squeak.org instance. So the recently added
> direct access to diffs between versions as either .diff or .cs
> is available in SqueakSource3, too.
>
> My highest aim was to improve extensibility, to allow drop-ins
> to extend squeaksource or to have a minimal one.
> For example, you can load the mare minimum of SqueakSource without
> even the ability to store versions to disk
> or have a full-featured SqueakSource that
> also includes Statistics, IssueTracking and (email) notification.
>
> I hope that helps imagine the SqueakSource3 :)
>
> So Long,
>        -Tobias_______________________________________________


Thanks for the comments Tobías. I've a good idea now and definitely I
will give it a try.

About the replication feature, do you have some ideas in mind?

I was thinking in different possibilities:

1. Develop a feature in the same squeaksource that does this.
2. Use some sort of replicated file system (as XtreemFS:
http://www.xtreemfs.org/). It will require to install it on XtreemOS
(http://www.xtreemos.eu/)
3. Use some nosql horizontally scalable DB (as Riak / Cassandra)
4. Use Magma/Gemstone

But, I repeat, just ideas until now. I was thinking in this feature to
my own use, because I need a reliable store of my source code on my
company.

Cheers.
Germán.

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Re: [Seaside] Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] SqueakSource AND SmalltalkHub down ; )

Tobias Pape

Am 2011-04-20 um 13:04 schrieb Germán Arduino:

> 2011/4/20 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Am 2011-04-20 um 12:32 schrieb Germán Arduino:
>>
>>> Hi Tobias:
>>>
>>> Sorry if I'm asking something already explained, but what are the new
>>> features of Squeaksource3?
>>>
>>> I'm interested in try being that I was thinking in provide it with
>>> some sort of data replication (only ideas
>>> at the moment).
>>
>>
>> I have not implemented replication yet, but it is
>> high on my list.
>>
>> There are no _really_ distinct features
>> but in contrast to the oriiginal SqueakSource and
>> SqueakSource 2,
>> • runs on Seaside3.0 and Magritte 2
>> • is highly aimed to run on GemStone
>> • includes a basic Issue tracking implemented by Dale Henrichs
>>
>> I integrated the features that were ‘lurking around’ ,
>> eg, in the source.squeak.org instance. So the recently added
>> direct access to diffs between versions as either .diff or .cs
>> is available in SqueakSource3, too.
>>
>> My highest aim was to improve extensibility, to allow drop-ins
>> to extend squeaksource or to have a minimal one.
>> For example, you can load the mare minimum of SqueakSource without
>> even the ability to store versions to disk
>> or have a full-featured SqueakSource that
>> also includes Statistics, IssueTracking and (email) notification.
>>
>> I hope that helps imagine the SqueakSource3 :)
>>
>> So Long,
>>        -Tobias_______________________________________________
>
>
> Thanks for the comments Tobías. I've a good idea now and definitely I
> will give it a try.
>
> About the replication feature, do you have some ideas in mind?
>
> I was thinking in different possibilities:
>
> 1. Develop a feature in the same squeaksource that does this.
> 2. Use some sort of replicated file system (as XtreemFS:
> http://www.xtreemfs.org/). It will require to install it on XtreemOS
> (http://www.xtreemos.eu/)
> 3. Use some nosql horizontally scalable DB (as Riak / Cassandra)
> 4. Use Magma/Gemstone

Gemstone already is my main target.
However, I think the synchronization of the Monticello versions
stored is less a problem than synchronization of the user data.
I think a  a replicated file system won't help there.
>
> But, I repeat, just ideas until now. I was thinking in this feature to
> my own use, because I need a reliable store of my source code on my
> company.

I think of a SqueakSource/GemStone appliance :)

So Long,
        -Tobias